Title | : | Hunting Vietcong: The Rise u0026 Immediate Fall of a Counter-Insurgency Aircraft in Vietnam |
Lasting | : | 18.49 |
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Views | : | 54 rb |
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Regarding the cow + helicopter thing: i"GROUND BEEF"/i 😉 Comment from : Allan {aka RocKITEman} |
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i"had more holes in it than a shooting range in Texas"/i br 😂😂😂😂😂 Comment from : Allan {aka RocKITEman} |
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Anything involving the us govt and military is a rabbit hole Love your videos Comment from : Relectric69 |
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I'm in a weird situation where I'm starting to get into aircraft but I still know basically nothing meaning any game I play, I'm bad at it lmao Comment from : Visassess |
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OV-10 and A-1 were beasts of their time Comment from : Chuck Reichert |
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My step-father was one of the USMC A-1D pilots who served as an instructor for South Vietnamese pilots Later on, during Linebacker II, he flew A-1D's on air defense suppression missions dropping dumb bombs on SAM sites defending Hanoi, while dodging SAMs and AAA Comment from : D L |
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1 month of war by WWII rules and that 10 year disaster would have been over 29 days of "LeMay treatment" and the south could have marched up and taken the north with zero resistance, plus 1 day for the unconditional surrender, and America would have had to put zero boots on the ground Comment from : Lawrence Allen |
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Why use a COIN when you can use a BUFF in an ARCLIGHT strike? Comment from : Zebra Dun |
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There is something retro about turboprop CAS Comment from : Burhan Budak |
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The Vietnam War was a "special war" that became a "limited war" Comment from : Tell The Spartans |
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Gulf of Tonkin incident was contrived to get USA involved directly Comment from : MrDomingo55 |
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In 1961 FAP (portuguese air force) use PV 2 Harpoon in ground bombardment in the insurrecional early days on northern Angola its true, ASW airplanes used whitout proper aiming devices for that jobsoon they are replaced ,by the way im using my Daughter iPhone ,i Lost mine 😁 Comment from : Rita Sofia Garcia Lourenço |
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Portugal used Fiat G 91, F 84 thunderjet, T 6 Harvard, and Do 27 as COIN aviation and Allouette lll 20mm autocanom as fire suport on Airborne operations during the colonial war on Angola ,Moçambique and Guinea-Bissau Comment from : Rita Sofia Garcia Lourenço |
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You forgot to mention that the gulf of Tonkin 'incident' was a false ruse by the US to have a excuse to escalate their operations Comment from : Kulak Remover |
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I would rather have a dozen Sky Raiders supporting me in the J, than one Wart hog at the same price Comment from : All that Jazz |
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2:16 What?!? Comment from : Albert Hofmann |
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Great content Very interesting and love your sense of humor Thank you Comment from : Transparent Drawing |
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I think something a lot of people seem to forget is that the Viet Cong practically didn't exist after Tet They were not a combat effective force again until after we'd already left We were no longer fighting guerillas, rather, we now fought much better trained and equipped regular troops All of our airstrikes on northern troops thus had to face sams and cannon AA positions Our COIN planes had no place in this more conventional conflict, which is part of why they were phased out so early Comment from : The Lord of Cringe |
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Full circle on prop aircraft? A-1 Spad to current A-29 Embraer EMB 314 Super Tucano OV-10's VMO squadrons, these were fun to watch while USMC flew in the 80's and 90's Comment from : Frank C |
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Bird Dog moment xd Comment from : MamaRussell ThePie |
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My father worked as a sentry at udorn Air base (where I work now) and air America was based here They had AC-47 and AC-119s here as well as F101s and F-4s brNow we have alpha jets and F-5s Sometimes F-16s here Comment from : Areeya |
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Someone probably already noted this: at 1:51, the image of the planes is reversed I understand you might not want to violate the 180 degree rule in editing sequences, but still: the letters on the planes are clearly backwards Otherwise, as always, excellent, companionable and fascinating work So thanks, and keep 'em coming Comment from : theonemacduff |
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Great video as always I LOVE the end, you are becoming a true professional :) Comment from : Big Swede Wulferine |
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You should do a collab with Joel Haver Comment from : MarcosElMalo2 |
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oh ya COIN is a rabbit hole in vietnam, basically anything and everything as long as someone could think it could be helpful the vietnam section of the US airforce museum is filled with all sorts of weirdly outdated (for 70s) aircraft, weaponized civilian planes, and other odd planes Comment from : Asbestos Muffins |
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The "paracow" aparently proved a dead end, in the Evolution of dairy Farming🤔 Comment from : Comented onakeyboard |
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You failed to really talk about the A37, which was an outstanding COIN weapons system, and is still in use today Comment from : Andreina Rangel |
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any time vietnam is mentioned I just get flashbacks to the a certain leak video website with a woman holding her baby crying, both with 3rd degree fatal napalm burns all over Thanks war Comment from : Fred P |
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What about the various planes used for the Puff operations such as the c-119, c-130 etc I saw and heard them while I was with the 4 Div from 1968-69 Would they not be considered COIN? Comment from : Richard Meyeroff |
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time for a better mic Comment from : zoolzoo |
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Great vid New sub! Does using JN4s against Pancho Villa count as COIN? What about the US Army using MB1 Bombers for FAC against coal miners on strike? Comment from : Doug Narby |
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The Rhodesians were the masters of COIN warfare Look up "The Rhodesian Bush War" if you want to understand how to perform effectively in COIN operations Comment from : umvhu |
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I used to be a fan of this channel , but there’s just too many ads nowadays , my man became too much of a salesman 😢 Comment from : Dylan s |
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Topic is close to homeI worked U-28s for a while Keep up the interesting assessments! Comment from : Eric Cain |
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Christoph, thank you for another entertaining and informative video I suspect that you are borrowing from The Bloke and Millennium 7* 😊! Keep it up I will have to buy the Friedman book You are definitely a bad influence, as I have already bought the second and third black books; and The Secret Horsepower Race 😁! Cheers from NZ🇳🇿 Comment from : Michael Guerin |
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I love the ov10 seen one at a airshow in cali that we drove past in 2014 so FOOKING loud Comment from : Sugar K |
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i wish to request that you could talk about the MAULER am-1, you seemed to be interest on the skyraider how about you could talk about one its predecessors Comment from : Penny carvalho |
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I like the new set Clever Comment from : Brandon Catuara |
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The Douglas Skyraiders were such an immense aircraft I can't think of another single engine prop plane that was so large Comment from : Steven Homan |
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I have a feeling of reja vu It's like deja vu but in the opposite direction, ie instead of seeing this before it's more I will see this again Comment from : Neil of Longbeck |
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Superb content Thank you Comment from : Nameymcnameface |
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That's how it always starts, you buy one book, and in one year you have a library, in another year you need another bookcase, and on it goesbrYou have an excellent and healthy curiosity, which will send you to all corners of learning Comment from : Steven Homan |
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11:05 Sooo would you call it ground beef?? Comment from : Scott11078 |
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Another informative video as always Chris One is always under the impression that COIN aircraft saw more extensive use in Vietnam than they really did Comment from : Cannonfodder43 |
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A related topic for another video - Operation Firedog - the RAF in Malaya 1948 to 1960 Comment from : Malt NZ |
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I have to admit that I have gone over 60 years, and hope to go at least another 20, without expecting to ever hear the phrase "violent cow/ground interface"brbrAfter that, I don't care what I hear Comment from : Mike Armstrong |
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Meaningful & effective use of aerial COIN was initiated by the RAF in the North West Frontier & Mesopotamia in the inter war years, largely for financial reasons (the RAF claimed they could pacify/control both regions more cheaply than the army) Comment from : Gardener42 |
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Damn you that book looks great Comment from : mikepette |
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Always love videos on Vietnam-era aviation Great job as usual Chris Comment from : Russell Hall |
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WaitI need to know more about this cow-dropping incident You could make a whole video out of this and, done right, it could potentially be your highest-viewed yet Comment from : Languages with Andrew |
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"Very Violent Cow-Ground Interface" Definitely up there with "The Teutonic Gods of German-ness" in Youtube Quotes 🤣 Comment from : Timothy Whitman |
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The Skyraider is hands down my favorite attack plane Always standing out with its piston engine in the jet age It is very surprising that these were in use for about 30 or so years Comment from : Lisztomaniac |
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Anyone feeling bad about the cow? Comment from : dcikaruga |
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One issue is the USAF and US Army bickering over “roles and missions” As opposed to the Marines who don’t have that problem Comment from : Robert Dawson |
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Now you need to do a really in-depth video on the Bronco of course Comment from : Onkel Micke |
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Did you mean to show the Corsairs at 1:50? Also, the YVAN Skyraiders at 1:51 (video is reversed) Again also, at 2:56 you mention WW1, but the graphic is labeled "Pre-World War 2" Love the content, thought you might like to see another pair of eyes on the final product before you release 👀😵💫 Comment from : Bryce Eller |
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I was wondering if, and if so, how, gunships (AC-47, 119, 130) were used for COIN ops? Comment from : Old Man Gimp |
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It speaks volumes that the newest COIN-esque aircraft is the "Skywarden", basically an armored sky tractor There is no room for COIN aircraft in modern war beyond bombing untrained insurgents with AKs Comment from : KGBlagden |
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Great Military Aviation HistorybrVery witty presentationbrDoodle doodle deebrWubba wubba wubba Comment from : Russ Jensen |
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Ah the Spad The A10 of the Vietnam era Comment from : Chiller1 |
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"Dual screen MAH is not real, it can't scare you!"brDual screen MAH: Comment from : Yo2Studios |
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Please work on your sound recording The echo doesn't help your otherwise high quality videos Comment from : Prienen |
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As far as I'm aware FACs in Vietnam loved the OV-10s The COIN heritage of the aircraft meshed well with the needs of FACs who needed a rugged aircraft with good visibility and a lot of loiter time Comment from : Jagdwyre |
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As a danish 'grunt' during Tours in the '00s - why do I like flying machines - I shouldn't 😕 Comment from : Dalle Samllhals |
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It might have been helpful to mention what the Gulf of Tonkin Incident was, and how it changed the US involvement in Vietnam? Comment from : MrLunarlander |
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13:00 "Hold fast, the pain ends soon" I love when you do that 😆 Comment from : nanorider426 |
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The whole point of so-called COIN aircraft was to provide an ally resisting an insurgency with inexpensive low-tech aircraft that it could effectively operate, yet were defensive in nature and not a threat to the balance of power of other major powers in the region I don't think COIN is a mission or type of aircraft as much as it is a limited application of airpower against an adversary fielding limited technology and combat power When the US became directly involved in the war it had a variety of capable aircraft that could perform most of these roles, but also fight a less limited war if necessary Comment from : Gort |
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Some great footage, I really liked the French pictures of the Bearcats I have always had a bit of an interest in the OV-10 It even lasted to the first Iraq war I would like to hear about that as well as recent OV-10 use in Syria! One plane you missed was the Army only OV-1 Mohawk; a very interesting COIN ?? Effort Comment from : Chris Carbaugh |
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1:52 YVAN EHT NIOJ? Comment from : Mumbler Inc |
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Texas shooting range joke was nice! Comment from : LRR |
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I do not see a “subscribe” button! ? Comment from : Roger Leahey |
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I always thought that the Army's OV-1 Mohawk would have made for an excellent COIN aircraft First, it had a lot of capabilities built into it And second, it's mere existence in the Army's inventory was a constant source of irritation to the Airforce brass Comment from : GrumpyBoomer |
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I think you could add the Saab J-29 in Congo? Many of the aircraft you describe taking on the COIN role would have started as FAC: forward air control No mention of the A-37? Comment from : Tom Salusbury |
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A single plane to do Cargo, CAS, Airlift, Reconnaissance, and interdiction? Looks like the plan was unrealistic from its inception Comment from : Gort |
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One of my favourite stories about the Skyraider is about the one which dropped a toilet over Vietnam (there is also one about a Skyraider which dropped a sink, I think, over Korea), you know, just because I have seen the photos and a short video of it as well Comment from : James Harris |
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How now Brown Cow?! MOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Comment from : Patrick Wentz |
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All time best cliff hanger! Comment from : Stephen Lode |
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Your presentation every-so-briefly skirted what the purpose my entire Air Force career turned out to be devoted to: Operation “Igloo White” I was an avionics repairman for our RC-121 spy planes stationed in Korat, Thailand Dec 1968- Dec 1969 Attack aircraft are great, but you first have to FIND the enemy Our big “camo painted” Lockheed Super Constellation four engine aircraft were packed with electronic surveillance equipment I have no doubt that Operation Igloo White saved many Army and Marine lives by our interdiction of the Ho Chi Minh trails in Vietnam and neighboring countries I wish someone would do a presentation covering this whole operation Comment from : Roger Leahey |
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01:55 - "talking about where coin comes from"brme, a Tax officials: "You had my curiosity, but now you have my attention" Comment from : Seth90 |
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Yes we know, but it is good to hear it from time to time :) Comment from : Säbelzahnmöwe |
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From the 1976 JANE'S POCKET BOOK OF MAJOR COMBAT AIRCRAFT In 1967 the P-51 was converted to a counter-insurgency aircraft and named "Cavalier" Apparently it was still in use in '76 Comment from : Cl Lyman |
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Emmmm, Sorry Chris, but stick to your proven format The last segment was Ya don't need gimmicks to be great Though I get why it might be necessary Comment from : David Gosling |
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And since this is a Great video but a litle bit silly I must ask You how do you Like that monitor? Comment from : Moxie |
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Much awaited much appreciated excellent insights as always Comment from : Marcus Ott |
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The British during WW 2 Burma Campaign used the DC-3 to transport Mules Successfully no Cows as far as I know Comment from : Critter Cam So Calf |
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COIN aircraft like the OV-10 have civilian roles, in addition to their military roles Like firefighting, search and rescue, disaster relief, and police support It is criminal that they aren't in constant production Comment from : Mike Mac |
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