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sNNNNNable
I learned more studying on my own for interviews after college than I ever did in college lol the degree definitely helps GET those interview tho
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Yuusuf ahmed
Hey, I'm Yuusuf and 20 years old I’m interested in becoming a self-taught web developer, and I would like to meet serious people who want to connect so we could make a study group and make a plan together If you are interested, let me know
Comment from : Yuusuf ahmed


Habeshan Coder
why does your face look like tech with tim???
Comment from : Habeshan Coder


ALTHEPAL78
yeah college was literally harder for me to understand but when I was doing it on my own I learn and understood what I was doing with programming I have to go back to algorithms
Comment from : ALTHEPAL78


Madurai Mannan
Why don't you Smile often!!!!
Comment from : Madurai Mannan


Oplawlz
I learned a ton of very valuable things in college None of them have any impact on my programming abilities
Comment from : Oplawlz


Oda Soto
As someone who has gone to 3 colleges for 4 majors (completed 1 with master as of now) College is overrated for most careers I’m glad to find out that the industry is putting knowledge and experience above a degree that may come or may not come with said knowledge
Comment from : Oda Soto


Atomic
I keep getting distracted by the Musk picture in the background What a fall from grace that guy had lol
Comment from : Atomic


Omar Tahboub
From some who spend over a decade between and Grad and Grad schools I feel universities should consider a compressed 2-year degree program for students who wish to go for Software Engineering industry There are numerous of courses in Math, CS and Engineering that students will never apply unless to go to advanced Grad degrees
Comment from : Omar Tahboub


dawnriddler
You have to learn everything by yourself even if you go to uni The only difference is that you have a person you can consult, and that many companies won't consider candidates without a degree, so you have a slight advantage
Comment from : dawnriddler


TheMister_OG
I'm teaching myself to code and I really needed to hear this
Comment from : TheMister_OG


Bens Escape
Honestly, some of the comments from your friend are invaluable like you will end up coding following tutorials and they’re working but at the same time you’re not sure what everything means I’m at that stage now and I regret not learning years ago when I was a lot younger but it‘a important to not live with regret and make the best possible future so I WILL do the best I can and achieve what I’m willing to put in to this career / life change Thanks for this video!
Comment from : Bens Escape


Piotr Jagiełło
you dont want to be self taught dev especially as Junior Python in Poland where for 1 job vacancy there is 800 candidates Fairy taleskeep dreaming
Comment from : Piotr Jagiełło


Michaël Jules
Networking, discipline and passion Rinse and repeat and have fun Been doing that for 15+ years
Comment from : Michaël Jules


Oo
There needs to be a global EMP event so people realize how much time they've actually wasted
Comment from : Oo


Fabut
As a 22 year old without college, I went with the route of doing bootcamp vs getting a degree I've had second thoughts countless of times because pursuing a degree makes the most sense while I'm still young After bootcamp I was applying for 3-4 months and received an offer for a 75k salary entry job I took it and have worked there for a year but changes in the work I was receiving and changes in the company policies made me want to quit (this started as full-time remote and switched to full-time in-person I was driving close to 2 hours a day for work) I was laid off and it's been a few months but I recently started studying again I think overall my decision was good, I'm hoping that the experience will benefit me right now but who knows I still have college as my ultimate backup approach which I'll consider after I start applying for a new job I did bootcamp for fullstack web development I was hired as a web developer
Comment from : Fabut


Twenty Seventh Letter
Yoooo as a person wanting to learn to code to mod Minecraft, I really appreciated hearing his perspective
Comment from : Twenty Seventh Letter


jax napper
i heard its easier if you are autistic is that true?
Comment from : jax napper


Muhammad Ahmad
I am a self taught programer and I learned Algorithm on my own and my concepts are better than a fresh college pass outs
Comment from : Muhammad Ahmad


Turnpost2552
This is asuch an old topic
Comment from : Turnpost2552


Peter Southwell
Here's why a degree isn't worth it's weight as toilet paper You spend the rest of your entire career revamping your skills, Learning new languages, new tech, new infrastructure EtcbrbrCollege is this fake bubble that doesn't exist once you start working It's not like how the industry is I don't know how many times I got hired as a Java Developer for example and suddenly Ive gotta learn React from scratch and fix an app in two weeks brbrSo what your demonstrating by being self taught is the one skill you'll need over and over and overbrbrIf you have a tough time learning on your own, software is the wrong industry,brbrBeing a college graduate is like spending your time learning how to play Mary Had a LIttle Lamb And suddenly Your in Led Zepplin having to learn all of Jimmy Page's Solos Cause they fired Jimmy Page 80 into the project and now you Need to make a miracle happenbrbrAnd guess what there's no class on what the guy did So what do you do You learn itbrbrSo to me College is for getting a first job Maybe But basically your useless to the industry until you 've proven you can teach yourself If the answer is no Degree or no degree your gonna get fired a lotbrbrThis is exactly like music How many of your favorite bands have a music degree?
Comment from : Peter Southwell


Waffleur
Lol, what a useful video, the main idea of which can be put into two sentences Work smart, not hard And: Valuable learning is not always expensive one Thanks, captain And the other guy is just as wonderful Find what works for you, and don't stop coding Thanks, a lot, I didn't know that myself!
Comment from : Waffleur


Meleeman
stay consistent when applying to jobs what?
Comment from : Meleeman


Patrick Tremblay
It is NOT easy to self learn The two most biggest challenges are Self-Organisation and Self-Discipline
Comment from : Patrick Tremblay


F Chen
any tips for those wanna learn from zero? Thanks
Comment from : F Chen


Keep it simple, stupid
Man, even your sponsored segment is interesting I would call myself self-taught, since I was always (11 years+) actively developing projects before college, whilst and afterbrThose passion projects really give you an edge on multiple frontsbrI did learn things in college that I might have missed otherwise After college, I went back for a micro degree in AI out of curiositybrI would say only a few of my college colleagues knew what they were good at and/or what they wanted to do after the degree So there was something missing for most of them but a lot of them did end up in the IT fieldbrThat said, working with university graduates, did amaze me
Comment from : Keep it simple, stupid


8-Bit Andy
IDK printed hello world at 38 now near 40 3k line code rpg Its all personality type
Comment from : 8-Bit Andy


Keren Sai
Estoy estudiando Ingeniería en sistemas, mi primer semestre en realidad y la verdad la calidad de las clases de programación dejan mucho que desear, no entiendo mucho de la lógica de cada idioma de programación sea código o seudocódigo pero me queda claro que tenemos que investigar por nuestra cuenta, con lo poco que he aprendido de ingles por ver tanto contenido en youtube creo que puedo lograrlo jaja
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Connor Headden
I tried being self taught and worked for about 2-3 hours a day on coding brbrIt wasn't enough discipline I need someone to light a fire under my i_/i to make me focus and keep pushing once I've become bored brbrCoding feels more like a practiced performative logical activity than any other field I have explored It needs a sort monk-like dedication to constant practice Formal education all the way mostly for the ACCOUNTABILITY
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Timpl01
I am glad that, as an Austrian, education is pretty much free You basically just pay with your time If you can't afford university the state will support you financially
Comment from : Timpl01


Ryan Robinson
Nope you must have Asperger’s to be a programmer
Comment from : Ryan Robinson


B M
Gotcha Bang my head against the wall
Comment from : B M


Roberto Demartini aiutiamo i meno fortunati
Help my please
Comment from : Roberto Demartini aiutiamo i meno fortunati


Sufal Banerjee
I studied bachelor's in hospitality studies and it gives me immense pleasure and motivation to read everyone's self taught journey here I would say I'm fairly sharp and have a basic intuition on how stuff works just by looking at it The problem with me was I never thought I was capable enough to enter the world of programming/IT even if I had a voice which said I could do it Finally going along with that voice in my head and pursuing Data science 😊
Comment from : Sufal Banerjee


Fuzon Zord
Are college-taught programmers even a real thing? Like I have doubt about anyone who wasn't already coding in high school becoming a programmer when having to do all the other subjects in CS college
Comment from : Fuzon Zord


Philip Doud
HIGHLY recommend ZTM Blows every other self-taught program I've done out of the water
Comment from : Philip Doud


Fede Devi
For all self taught guys/girls out there If you are at the level where you think programming is the hard part of software engineering I have bad news for you
Comment from : Fede Devi


Justin S Barrett
Lots of great advice here! As an older (>50) self-taught programmer who's dabbled in different platforms and languages over the years, I was very blessed to be the first dev hire at the company where I work 18 months later I now manage two other developers (both with degrees), and we'll likely grow the team again within the next six months While I'm happy with how far I've come without formal training, I'm also extremely aware of my shortcomings However, I've been persistent in learning new things so that I can provide greater value to the company and move things forward, and so far things are going well
Comment from : Justin S Barrett


axon
college is no nice
Comment from : axon


Tribeoftech
College doesn't teach you jack shit compared to self learning Professors do not have time to teach you, you teach yourself College is also multiple subjects at once bootcamps are one topic and very much so more intensive content and speed college is a baby version of bootcamps
Comment from : Tribeoftech


Avg B
Toby Maguire
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Satori Sails
Being self taught likely means no DSA or system design skills to get through interview rounds with success This will be a major hurdle without taking a step back to gain a solid foundation for higher paying positions Expect to struggle unless you are solid at leetcode
Comment from : Satori Sails


Black Dragon
I just know, as much as I believe I am going to kill it when I start college in a few days, I wouldn't make it doing self taught
Comment from : Black Dragon


Torra Tech
I've always been on and off with my interest with coding since I always seem to get a little flustered that things aren't clicking, although I tend to give myself a short period of time Already graduated and took some java classes in college but looking into python and lua for some gamedev related programming as building games seems to be an interest I may actually keep steady with Definitely videos like this help encourage me that whether im a late bloomer to the software world, things are still possible
Comment from : Torra Tech


Kelbrxn
So I Have a pretty great full stack idea I want profit on but I have no clue on how to develop it, I have no interest in finding a job as a programmer and only want to focus on this project, should I follow the standard procedure that follows the path to finding a job as a mean of learning to code, or are there other sources that will help me develop my own project directly without big tech prep?
Comment from : Kelbrxn


Vladimir Marinović Martini
Also I can tell one thing self learning is great proof about passion in that field which you learn by self
Comment from : Vladimir Marinović Martini


Freya Black
I think it's dumb that people have some weird hierarchy now where there "are self taught programmers" and people with college degrees For starters what if you didn't do either, like you had some computer education that wasn't a college degree? Also what does "self taught" mean anyway especially when people are doing courses online etc Are they self taught or was there a teacher hidden in the computer or something? It's all a load of nonsense Which I think was partly the point of this video although it seems caught up in these memes and this attempt to force everything into two camps I especially love that you are self taught if you did Harvard CS50 That seems nutty to me but people need to crow bar this stuff into the little boxes
Comment from : Freya Black


Freya Black
02:16 I know you went the traditional educational route but you do know that a PHD is not a college degree right? At least nobody would think it was
Comment from : Freya Black


JZAx99
Thank you for making this vid
Comment from : JZAx99


Christopher Appleby
i am a recent professional software engineer I had to drop out of college because i couldnt afford it after covid But i really like to code as a hobby and ended up learning enough to build a webportfolio that landed me a job And once you get enough work experience -- you are solid either way
Comment from : Christopher Appleby


TB
Save 100k in student loans teaching yourself Only issue is people with a masters get the management positions and people with a phd becomes the site lead from my experience
Comment from : TB


RC
Experience is the best teacher and everyone must pay that piper to get good regardless of how they startedbrbrYou just gotta write programs, test, fail and repeat until you just get it
Comment from : RC


2Failure
💪🏽🧠👍🏽
Comment from : 2Failure


Terry Loughran
I'm in the process of self though and 40 Change of work direction Well 🤞
Comment from : Terry Loughran


Robert Lyttle
Thanks for sharing It was informative; I enjoyed your presentation and will join "Zero TO Mastery"
Comment from : Robert Lyttle


Mitch Garcia
the elon pic on the wall is extremely cringe
Comment from : Mitch Garcia


Alex Ch
my self taughtness has led me to retire, day trading stocks, seeing as corporate toxic layofff land is junk status
Comment from : Alex Ch


Keith Kagiri
I'm a 26 year old civil engineering graduate and I am considering transitioning to software engineering It is quite scary since I have spent close to 6 years in college and I feel like those will be wasted years But at the same time I am really not passionate about civil engineering and as a result I didn't do so well in college Any advice?
Comment from : Keith Kagiri


Kyle Taylor
All the jobs I see on Indeed, ZipRecruiter, etc… all mention a bachelors degree AT MINIMUM So, I’d like to know where I can find a job that doesn’t require it, that’d be nice to see for once
Comment from : Kyle Taylor


Void
I don’t know if this sounds corny, but honestly man, I do just want to be a “successful” computer scientist Not just that but a great problem solver To be perfectly honest this is all I really want to try and do for my career and has been the same way since my Junior year of High School
Comment from : Void


brian hanger
My bachelors degree is in Criminology I almost went for a 2nd degree in Computer Science and realized I pretty much was on my own in college anyway I really can’t remember any of the professors speaking for more than 1 minute just to tell us about their day I googled everything in college, my senior year I don’t even think I used my college books AT ALL I’ve spent almost all my free time the last few years learning cybersecurity and a few programming languages and now I’m ready to start applying for jobs
Comment from : brian hanger


nelsonthekinger
Woow, You have changed a year a go or so you talked really like an unconfident guy! now you look a different guy! hope that you are feeling as confident!brbrCheers!
Comment from : nelsonthekinger


geri ibra
I am self taught and you need to get your hands dirty If you are following a tutorial and in the tutorial the instructor is building a project go out of his way or go ahead and try to complete the solution of your own You will create that way more problems and fix them and make you understand much more Also create a good linkedin profile and send lots of cvs each cv tailored to the company you are applying It is hard and long journey and it is hard to push yourself alone but if you stick with it you will make it If I did as someone who suffers a lot from ADHD everyone can!
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Marty L
I dont know about you guys but in my country college is free xd
Comment from : Marty L


Drone Ellsberg
Thank you very much appreciated
Comment from : Drone Ellsberg


synced
I'm not sure how I know how to code, I have extensive knowledge in web applications in frameworks like react, laravel and vue and know over 5 languages fluently and have experience in many frameworks I'm only 17, but I have learnt so much in only 5 years The internet is a really powerful tool, you should use it If you're learning how to program, don't learn but do it, a good example of this would be to look at projects and how they are structured, once you know the basics you can do almost anything It's not hard, you're just telling yourself that
Comment from : synced


David S
I taught myself C++ for 2 years in the pandemic and am now in my second year of a software engineering degree because I couldn't get work There is so much about design principles and industry standards that you won't learn that on your own unless a real software engineer gives you a reading list and some direction That said, you will not do half as well in school if you can't teach yourself because lecture time is not enough
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HENRY
Me: early 30sbrB/w 17-25 schooling, 3 different collegesbr25-29 elementary School Teacher, ten of thousands of $ in student debt, salary $425kbr29-31 Full time Uber Driverbr31-now W-2 local Semi Truck Driver, income $75k+/yearbrCollege is dumb, so many people without degrees still believe that's the way to make a living and criticize my decision to be blue collar not really about self-taught v Traditional But my point being that college isn't really needed to have a respectable career and supporting a family, which is the point
Comment from : HENRY


Canepaper
The problem with tutorials as opposed to just starting to build and learn as you go along is that with tutorials you end up learning a bunch of things and not understanding it's use case It's like ok I know how to do this, why though?
Comment from : Canepaper


Akarapong Boonrat
Eventually we all selft taught😂 if u know what I mean😂brbrIf u are in the field that is
Comment from : Akarapong Boonrat


Tewodros Tilahun
Thanks for sharing that is the reality
Comment from : Tewodros Tilahun


Phoenix Helicase
When a self-taught programmer trying to sell you something 😂 so many fakers pretending to be self-taught and sell you things though their “amazing, special offers course” It’s a joke You might as-well save the money and spend it on books or go to university / college
Comment from : Phoenix Helicase


Jim Noeth
I'm self taught, back when I started in the 70's, there were very few universities offering computer science degrees When I made it into a management position and started hiring, I would not hire a person with a computer science degree, I would look for traditional engineers instead My experience was that computer science people only had book knowledge and didn't know how to think outside the box Engineers, though, were usually taught to think for themselves As strange as it might seem, I also looked for people with a music background, as without exception, the best programmers I knew had music backgrounds (as do I)
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JakeTM
dude recommends starting with a twitter / youtube clone idk about that one
Comment from : JakeTM


anlymoi anlymoi
Going through self-education in IT right now I find it very easy to deal with not having classmates in two ways:brbr1) chatGPT Seriously, it's invaluable it helps me to write code and understand difficult or unclear topicsbrIn some ways it's even more comfortable than some human teachers: you can have with it and ask any questions (stupid or smart) any time you want (cause I tend to bombard human teachers with a million questions which sometimes annoys them)brbr2) before deciding to go into IT, I'd accidentally accumulated a friend group from the field Everyone's doing vastly different things and working in very different subfields, but it's still helpful to know there's real people I can ask questions or just chat Also it's awesome to listen to my friends talk about their jobs and finally understand the words coming out of their mouths
Comment from : anlymoi anlymoi


Tinytox
From about 15 seconds into the video, I don't respect your opinion on anythingbrDisliked, clicked off, you pompous degree bludgeoning monkey
Comment from : Tinytox


Soup
beta man says go to college and waste money, smart monkey man just use internet to learn like he would at college anyway
Comment from : Soup


trx32
You'll be fine, just don't grow old
Comment from : trx32


Megaboy Boy
I live in pakistan and the worst thing over here is that you need a degree just to get a good job and I hate that
Comment from : Megaboy Boy


Khalil Chouikri
I just want to mention that there are some people like me who do both of them, and I think this is the best method
Comment from : Khalil Chouikri


Krischi Kirsche

Comment from : Krischi Kirsche


jeremy
Can I ask kindly why he’s so shaky
Comment from : jeremy


adeek
Traditional college education teaches you how to learn on your own, that’s the most valuable thing you will carry out of a college, how to learn on your own, digging up information from different sources
Comment from : adeek


Asagi Ai
The problem here is technically you are also asking for money There's nothing wrong with asking for moneybrBut the amount of money paid should be worth it
Comment from : Asagi Ai


Jungle78
Thank you!
Comment from : Jungle78


KOJO :0
W video Literally the first video I've ever understood from start to finish
Comment from : KOJO :0


Younes Ghanem
Good one
Comment from : Younes Ghanem


Epic sionaryo
Im 31 Years Old can I still learn to code i find it very interesting
Comment from : Epic sionaryo


cariyaputta
I've composed a list of free quality resources that aren't funnels Mostly for myself Self taught is the best way to gain actual skill, but college is a good way to build connections
Comment from : cariyaputta



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