Gregory Chaitin: Complexity, Metabiology, Gödel, Cold Fusion

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Title	:	Gregory Chaitin: Complexity, Metabiology, Gödel, Cold Fusion
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Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal

TIMESTAMPS and LINKS MENTIONED:br- 00:00:00 Introduction br- 00:02:27 Chaitin's Unconventional Self-Taught Journey br- 00:06:56 Chaitin's Incompleteness Theorem and Algorithmic Randomness br- 00:12:00 The Infinite Calculation Paradox and Omega Number's Complexity (Halting Probability) br- 00:27:38 God is a Mathematician: An Ontological Basis br- 00:37:06 Emergence of Information as a Fundamental Substance br- 00:53:10 Evolution and the Modern Synthesis (Physics-Based vs Computational-Based Life) br- 01:08:43 Turing's Less Known Masterpiece br- 01:16:58 Extended Evolutionary Synthesis and Epigenetics br- 01:21:20 Renormalization and Tractability br- 01:28:15 The Infinite Fitness Function br- 01:42:03 Progress in Mathematics despite Incompleteness br- 01:48:38 Unconventional Academic Approach br- 01:50:35 Godel's Incompleteness, Mathematical Intuition, and the Platonic World br- 02:06:01 The Enigma of Creativity in Mathematics br- 02:15:37 Dark Matter: A More Stable Form of Hydrogen? (Hydrinos) br- 02:23:33 Stigma and the "Reputation Trap" in Science br- 02:28:43 Cold Fusion br- 02:29:28 The Stagnation of Physics br- 02:41:33 Defining Randomness: The Chaos of 0s and 1s br- 02:52:01 The Struggles For Young Mathematicians and Physicists (Advice)brbrLINKS MENTIONED: br- Meta Math and the Quest for Omega (Gregory Chaitin): amznto/3stCFxH br- Visual math episode on Chaitin's constant: youtube/WLASHxChXKM br- Podcast w/ David Wolpert on TOE: youtube/qj_YUxg-qtY br- A Mathematician's Apology (G H Hardy): amznto/3qOEbtL br- The Physicalization of Metamathematics (Stephen Wolfram): amznto/3YUcGLL br- Podcast w/ Neil deGrasse Tyson on TOE: youtube/HhWWlJFwTqs br- Proving Darwin (Gregory Chaitin): amznto/3L0hSbs br- What is Life? (Erwin Schrödinger): amznto/3YVk8Xm br- "On Computable Numbers, with an Application to the Entscheidungsproblem" (Alan Turing): wwwcsvirginiaedu/robins/T br- "The Major Transitions in Evolution" (John Maynard Smith and Eörs Szathmáry): amznto/3PdzYci br- "The Origins of Life: From the Birth of Life to the Origin of Language" (John Maynard Smith and Eörs Szathmáry): amznto/3PeKFeM br- Podcast w/ Stephen Wolfram on TOE: youtube/1sXrRc3Bhrs br- Incompleteness: The Proof and Paradox of Kurt Gödel (Rebecca Goldstein): amznto/3Pf8Yt4 br- Rebecca Goldstein on TOE on Godel's Incompleteness: youtube/VkL3BcKEB6Y br- Gödel's Proof (Ernest Nagel and James R Newman): amznto/3QX89q1 br- Giant Brains, or Machines That Think (Edmund Callis Berkeley): amznto/3QXniYj br- An Introduction to Probability Theory and Its Applications (William Feller): amznto/44tWjXI
Comment from : Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal

Chaitin’s constant is god It exists in a world beyond the human one, It is infinite, creative, irreducible, (I am that I am), mostly shrouded in mystery, promises eternity (math as an open system), and is for some just an abstract idea and for the Platonist a reality
Comment from : OutrageIncorporated

Another banger! Keep them coming Curt!
Comment from : xanxus

Excellent interview
Comment from : Myboloneyhasafirstname

This is special!
Comment from : Sotirios

God is not a mathematician Mathematicians are delusional, even Tesla stated that It's probably the main reason physics has made absolutely NO progress well over 100 years Humanity needs to pull its head out if it's ass and get back to real science and end academic ass kissing
Comment from : Mark Patton

I recommend to pick up and read a few books Peter Lynch and Rich dad Poor dad is where I was recommended to start Learn different strategies so that you might develop your own
Comment from : Broszki West

This one is really great, thanks a lot for the podcast!
Comment from : Otomar Jupiter

I had to watch it a couple times to make sure, but he said he was friends with Carl Schwarzchild It's weird how we can loft people up ideally and not think of them as real I guess these, giants of their field, will have friends too
Comment from : Benjamin BEARD

This is an amazing episode! Fascinating! Thank you both so much!
Comment from : Kevin Pérez

Could someone answer this one please: Can infinities exist without infinite time?
Comment from : The Douglas W Lipp Channel

That's some irony in the clip of the video It says "God is a mathematician" but within the first 30 minutes, he said "I think it's better to say God is a computer"
Comment from : dirtynachobuffet

whats the difference between algorithmic information theory and the simulation hypothesis that also has its roots in theology ? the universe gets purpose and meaning controlled and made by the programmer the religions call GOD If GOD is a programmer he must be outside of his simulation so that means he has been observing his simulated universe and has been looking at the earth the last 4 billion years and seen all that suffering you should of think he would program a more caring universe if he were all loving and all powerful brbrIt defiantly a programmer who likes evil and lets psychopaths control the world and history So I want to know who is this programmer ? does the programmer have consciousness ? who created the programmer ? Is it not interesting that the modern theories also ends with more questions because thought and information is limited we are still asking the same questions humanity has been thinking of since we evolved into human sapience according to Darwin
Comment from : Dont follow think for your self

Human beings do not like war IMO
Comment from : The Douglas W Lipp Channel

Can infinities exist without infinite time?
Comment from : The Douglas W Lipp Channel

re: beauty in mathematics - I wonder if the biological desire for a symmetrical mate (implying healthy genes and gene expression) is some subtle driving factor in our appreciation for the beauty in math since math is ripe with symmetry
Comment from : Kowzorz

re: A digital cosmos, 1s and 0s - I've always half-seriously maintained that everything is just a structure made of a substructure plus nothing/space And that substructure is recursively also further-substructure and more nothing/space, etc etc This can be sort of thought of as a digital nature, the house of cards that makes a 1 in totality and appears to have plenty of 1s on the inside, only to reveal large 0s and tiny recursive islands of 1s with any real scrutiny Near any structure you can think of in our universe fits this bill of "tiny thing inside mostly empty large structure" at some level of its existence: galaxy->stars stellar systems->planetary bodies atoms->nucleus/point-electron Makes me wonder if the random of quantumstuff stems from a new (or banal) kind of chaos from the pattern-satisfying tiny things informing bthose/b mechanics (yes, I know, planck stuff, limits of density etc etc)
Comment from : Kowzorz

This is high octane stuff! Thanks and Appreciated! D from Scotland
Comment from : david ball

Brilliant and informative as usual Thank you both You two make us think
Comment from : Javad Hashtroudian

6:10 - People use faith to suppress facts they don't like The culture of science is built on a series of cognitive biases around a specific, and increasingly unlikely, outcome to Goedels incompleteness theorems
Comment from : GingerHipster

Mathematics is not the universal language In other dimensions, 2+2 may not equal 4 It is foolish to think that is true It is yet more anthropomorphizing on our part The entire idea that there are fixed laws that govern the universe is in fact an anthropomorphic one What we call fixed laws may not in fact be fixed at all They may evolve over time See Rupert Sheldrake, for example
Comment from : Dirk Wright

1:35:00 the flame analogy for life is actually interesting and made me remember that in Quran it says "and we created djinns from smokeless fire"brI guess flames is a dispersive open system but doesn't create orderbrBut plasma could be, like I remember this Romanian professor who worked in German space agency on dusty plasma research and who claimed in his papers that dusty plasma exhibit life like behaviors like memory, multiplication and even evolution, but i should confess my ignorance about the topicbrI should add that i find this link relevant to UFO/UAP because existence of a plasmoid lifeforms could explain the UFO phenomena on earth and in space
Comment from : zazugee

1:23:00 in software design or programming it's called an abstraction layerbrThe idea that a chess game is a chess game irrelevant of the nature of the board and pieces, they can be stones, plastic, ivory, or non material like pencil and paper, or simulated or even inside a chess player's mind
Comment from : zazugee

Not related but I remember Bob Uhouse if I remember correctly A worker in Area 51, who, to whittle it down to the main point, and stick with me here lol He said on speaking to JRod the alien that no matter what humans did to create a copy of the UFO, it would never fly The best mathematicians were involved, and the only way it would work was when the math was wrongbrIt's way out there I know but I found it very interesting that the math as we understand it, is wrong when dealing with an advanced propulsion system A system that can travel at the speeds they do needs mathematics we don't yet understand Possibly string theory, or perhaps even weirder than string theory Or maybe I'm mad
Comment from : Eleventh Monkey Gaming

im just here looking for advice on my power washer How does this help me and wtf you taking about?
Comment from : M

Just wow, i never thought i would see an interview with ChaitinbrBeen fascinated by his article, "the limits of reason" for many years
Comment from : zazugee

This was great! Thanks Leaving a comment for the algo I saw how the newest alien upload you did pumped views but this big work was missed Thanks as always It's the best brainfood on the internet The comments here are just wild and your channel attracts some bizarre perspectives Part of the fun of ToEs, I guess
Comment from : Zheanna Erose

God is so much more than anything you could ever describe in words at least in the languages I know, loss of words
Comment from : Adair Janney

Paraconsistent logic extends logic past the Boolean, but reduces to it Have you interviewed Graham Priest? You had posted he was on your list This impacts how you analyze random sequences (semantics)
Comment from : William Branch

These guys are great!
Comment from : The Douglas W Lipp Channel

God is dead!!
Comment from : Strange Trip

Great insight How about inviting dr Shiva Ayyadurai, he's got algorithmic formulas to all this scientifically important Questions💌
Comment from : Wojciech Wajda

So Good to see this - Loved Gregory since i saw him on the fabulous documentary - Soul Searching 2008
Comment from : philip wakeham

This is a great braincracker
Comment from : qdam 91

He is a legend and so humble Thank you for talking to him It was very inspiring to learn he achieved all this outside of academia
Comment from : Siarez

No god is the coming symbol of both time and space Measure and judgement? 🙏🌪️🔑⌚
Comment from : E Jenkins

I Ching has 64 hexagrams (6 lines) based on a binary system Back to Methulesa was staged at the National Theatre London, Old Vic in 1971in two parts I saw one
Comment from : Javad Hashtroudian

Working in physics, I vividly remember the entire Pons/Fleischman episode They absolutely weren't helped by the fact that their university's publicity department made some kind of announcement which itself came from a PR department, not a physics one To recover from that alone, they'd have had to be proven correct almost immediately The whole thing wasn't science, it was a lynching
Comment from : David Wright

Information based paradigm (computation, complexity theory) is to the 21st century what geometric (differential, algebraic) based paradigm is to the 20th centurybrbrFor those wanting to contribute to the frontline and find the deepest connections of this century, study the boundary between the information paradigm and the geometric paradigm
Comment from : ApePostle

Instantly underrated
Comment from : Ryan J Buchanan

Hail Chaitan
Comment from : Mikro Phonie

😂Of course he is Made in our own glorious image
Comment from : John Doe

This one sucked too hard to follow and just not very interesting
Comment from : Mike Galosi

Merci de partager ton talent avec nous, c'est vraiment incroyable
Comment from : *Akagami*なんちゃって赤髪のとも【赤髪のとも切り抜き】

Finally !
Comment from : Kiran

Three guesses, the man claiming god is mathematics is a mathematician brSolipsism, anyone?brAnother towering intellect humbled by smug brbrMath fetish has shown it’s systemic limits via Godel, and why so little progress has been made in decades
Comment from : Jonathan Gibson

Thank you both for an extremely interesting and idea-provocative discussion A good couple of months for me just to sort out the ideas and understand something of them My own background is in mathematical physics (relativity) but with sidelong glances in very abstract directions Here there's a wonderful interplay between mathematics, logic in the form of computation, and mappings between these and the biological and otherwise physical With a good sprinkling of the philosophically interesting informed by the rest Thanks again! I've waited years for discussions like this
Comment from : David Wright

His statement that people are good at suppressing inconvenient facts couldn’t be more true when applied to today even though he’s referring to reactions of individuals in the past In fact, I would say that “suppressing inconvenient facts” has run rampant to the extent that vast numbers are not only living in unreality or delusions to the point of mass psychosis that makes it seem extraordinary that anyone would come out and discuss fact based truths about anything This interview here is sanity 101 and thank heavens for Gregory Chaitin and his ilk
Comment from : Nonpareil storyteller

i"God is a mathematician"/ibrbrThat's just one of God's games God cannot be defined at all
Comment from : Corteum9000

Gregory Chaitin was wanderingim if any religious books were talking about cristal The Urantia book mention a sea of glass These revelations in the Urantia book are mathematical and much more
Comment from : PJ

I read a paper claiming Randy Mills is just burning metal and that is where the extra energy is coming frombrbrAt any rate how can he ever prove he created hydrinos or dark matter, when there's no way to detect them The spectral lines could still be burning metal, or different mistake? I would like to see an interview with him though Maybe he can explain better
Comment from : Jaime Sherrill

Didn’t Turing work with Tesla
Comment from : Tritun

49:28 - Rumor has it context is information ^^
Comment from : The Memes of Destruction

Maths are tools of approximation and measurement God, intelligent nature are far beyond that Mathematics don’t exist in nature, math is a construct and a neverending rabbithole Math sets us apart from our own nature and reality and helps us building a facade of synthetic limited qualities to life Math, I’m sorry, it’s going against God We can’t win or catch up cause math leaves us out of universal integrity in its most physical/biological/spiritual meaning at the most egocentric unconscious willful bloatware pseudo-intelligent obsolescent mercy But hey, I’m so stupidly wrong right, look at the world we have…
Comment from : Krøne

There’s a wonderful documentary film about Gregory - “Gregory Chaitin - Against Method” 2015 Well worth a watchbrbrKeep up the fantastic work Curt!
Comment from : Terpsichore

That Henson shaving cut in advert was very rude Burt I might buy it Thanks for arranging this interview, Gregory Chaitin is an amazing human being
Comment from : Douwe

Mic quality 💀
Comment from : Afonso Lopes

Great job?
Comment from : Kevin Bouyer

I think it's amusing and telling of how deep this discretization has penetrated thought that in considering zero and one, the entirety of the in between is left out brWhen as we know, for every number larger than one, there is an inverse reciprocal inside of 1 brThe boundarybrThe entirety of geometry is inside of a unit circle
Comment from : Caleigh Fisher

And so finds himself uniquely powerless because of his uniqueness
Comment from : Mark Wrede

No it's not zero and 1 that create the universe A binary distinction does We just happen to use 0 and 1 to represent it Any 2 symbols could be used 0 in binary only means 'zero' in a subset of instances
Comment from : supercal333

I love how you don't put up a lot of ads but as a subscriber I think you deserve the revenue so I'd be willing to still watch even if you put a ton of ads in Just saying
Comment from : Matthew Dieter

Consciousness is the extent to which something is able to interpret the value of processed logic Thank you Curt, for the great content you are offering
Comment from : Edwin van den Berg

Kind of obvious God is mathematicianwhy can math describe physicality? By design
Comment from : Zandrr

Lots of Fibonacci out there, and here Just a coincidence, though Doesn't mean much Probably
Comment from : David Wartski

Him and Jonathan Gorard need to have a workshop together br@toe
Comment from : Caleigh Fisher

You really need to have Dr Robert lanza on
Comment from : Mediterranean Life

Excellent guest, Curt! I read his popular book about the Omega number back in the day & it was awesome
Comment from : Robby R

Hello????
Comment from : Herod P

God is a mathematicianaccording to - wait wait - a mathematician I'll pass
Comment from : John Kirkwood

Imho god is way smarter than a mathematician
Comment from : Dr Gasgeber

Art is what you do when science isn't working
Comment from : Rick D

The orators cannot transcend their training, the academics cannot transcend their paradigm brThe orator is always enforcing a subjective association that is all consuming brThe academic is always enforcing a paradigm that is either inconsistent or incomplete br brTruth is the perfect symmetry of relationship Value is the sophistication of relationship
Comment from : Rick D

Deception is hidden within complexity
Comment from : Roy Dopson

Mathematicians do math because they know they exist when they are mathingbrbrGodels incompleteness theorem applies to mathematics itself There is no conclusion to mathematics because the purpose of thought is to distract attention away from Self (the frame of reference; the "nothing")brbrThis is the game Thought builds the labyrinth and convinces the ego that it's leading to Reality Mathematicians are lost in delusion
Comment from : Roy Dopson