We DO learn languages through input

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Title	:	We DO learn languages through input
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I work in a school from primary level high school with about 20 colleagues all teaching English across the levels Not one of them knows who Krashen is Krashen and all the linguists involved in lang acquisition science quite categorically state that their science IS NOT FILTERING down to the classroom and I observe this Even Cambridge don't acknowledge his work Added to which, all the 'input' methods out there are basically listen to and memorize a ton of words The whole concept of the input hypothesis is that you need to give your brain language to work with, some of which is new and some of which you will comprehend through context and that over time through engaging in (listening to and reading ) the language you will acquire competence and the language will emergebrbrRegardless of what Christian thinks he means, there is only ONE WAY in which the brain acquires a language regardless of what methodology is being employed and the work of Krashen et al gets as close to this as is possible I say this from 30+ years as a language teacher who explores the best strategies to help my studentsbrbrWhat VanPatten says about speaking before being ready is that a student will be forced to find a strategy to speak and will utlimately lean on their L1 It's common for example to hear native Spanish learners of English say "I have 10 years" (translating from btengo diez años/b tengo being I have) because they were forced to speak before they had acquired competence They basically end up translating an answer This more often than not ends up fossilized for longer than is necessary
Comment from : TheCompleteGuitarist

Native speakers learn their native language without actually speaking a lot Infact, go into an average native speaker classroom where the students are studying something and you'd notice that most of them are mostly silent and yet they're still learning the subject they are studying and new aspects language that will enable them to comprehend that subject
Comment from : TheCompleteGuitarist

Which side of a coin is more important? You can't speak without understanding But you can understand without speaking 😊brbrMany people read Shakespeare But few can write at the same levelbrbrI think you just didn't understand what Christian said
Comment from : putin is a KILLER

18:36 That's why i think the input is the most important As languages are a communication tool if you don't understand what the other person is saying, you're speaking skills might be out of this world, but it won't do any good in this situation In my opinion the goal when learning languages should always be to understand the native speakers Not the "my goal is to pass the A2 test" and such 😆
Comment from : T0mmyPL

Thank God! I thought my issue with russian was BARELY speaking I practice speaking copying the Pimsleur method and making it my own for the most relevant sentences But I am too afraid to speak (output) to native speakers as practice I still wholeheartedly believe I need to incorporate conversation practice, but it’s so helpful to hear about how your output heavy approach to swedish barely helped you to progress and didn’t contribute to the understanding side of it Thanks for your honest takes on this video
Comment from : TBountyBay

I'm Swedish and almost everytime when I speak English and they ask me where I am from, they look at me like I am crazy They always say I speak with no accent And I have met other people who are not English native speakers who do too And guess what we all have in common? That's right Learning by listening Every single one I have yet met a single person who speaks a language like a native that has learned it through studying grammar
Comment from : Daniel

Of course people need input to learn a language One can't use, for example, vocabulary and grammar they've never encountered
Comment from : shutterchick79

The comment section of his video is the best advertisement for Krashen's approach 😅 Loads of people who say it works!
Comment from : Oksana Eng

I love input and it has helped my English My mother tongue is Spanish I live in The Netherlands I don't speak English here I just consume tones of youtube videos in English and films
Comment from : Taichientaoyin

When I watched Canguro's video I also thought about a cousin I have, she was born and raised in Switzerland and according to my aunt, she didn't know how to speak Spanish although the older siblings did speak somewhat fluentlybrWhen my they came to Peru to visit, my cousin was around 7 or 8 and after 2 days, she was starting to speak Spanish rather fluently and she would understand everything My aun was very surprised and I hand't thought about that until I saw Canguro's critique He is right in that you do need to practice the language but if I only go by what I saw with my cousin, I'd say Krashen's theory holds up because she received tons of input from her family (although cero input from the rest of her environment) and when she was immersed in a fully-Spanish-speaking environment, she was able to speak it Certainly not the end of the argument but Canguro says these group of people are a great refutation of Krashen whereas I know that's hardly the case with any of my 15 cousins (and now, nephews and nieces) spread around the world
Comment from : Juan Andrés Ramírez

So, this input theory has possibly solved a mystery for me, as to why children of immigrants invariably speak with the accent of their adoptive country, rather than their parents’ Even in situations where the language is the same, for instance, English parents come to Australia and their resultant children speak English with an Aussie accent Indeed, if there is a regional accent, such as English immigrate to Texas, the kids will invariably speak with that accent Sometimes the kids can not even accurately imitate their parents’ accent, try as they might brbrSo, is this because the majority of the kids’ input is coming from their adoptive country?brbrAny linguists here, who could weigh in on this?
Comment from : EG A

I am a Portuguese native speaker, I have been studying English for 1 year and a half using the theory of language acquisition and after do this for so long I finally became fluent in English People this work, now I'm thinking in learning German doing input a lot😁🧠
Comment from : Big Bang World 🌍

Thank you for the intelligent discussion and food for thought I’m learning Spanish I’ve noticed that I seem to have more confidence speaking when I have completed a high amount of input (My listening comprehension is coming along albeit slowly) IMO it would take me considerably longer to speak confidently if I hadn’t read so much After seeing the words and phrases numerous times, they started to stick I am more likely to remember them and use them in the correct context This from a woman who first took Spanish by correspondence and by that I mean with a textbook, cassette tapes, and an occasional phone call with my tutor (80s) I had no other resources and no Spanish speaking people around me I still managed to learn and did quite well in this class But it was a high level of input It was all I had If a high level or even a similar level of output was necessary, I would not have passed my class Instead it lit a fire in me and I continued to read and learn That being said, my listening and speaking level are impaired and I need to put more focus on that to progress
Comment from : Dee Cee

Lmao that’s pretty much me with some languages I just understand everything and only respond in English😂
Comment from : …K…

If somebody thinks input for a foreign language isn't the way to go, they should experiment with their own language first An American arrives in England and is baffled by the waffle some people talk, but they won't sit down and study it like there will be a test The "brain hack" there is that they're confident enough to tell themselves it is their language, albeit a bit strange, and they will invariably understand with timebrbrbrThere's so much crap in the English teaching industry that wastes countless hours and immense amounts of money The only problem with Krashen's ideas taking hold is that they'd make everything more efficient, and contrary to what people might think, inefficiency can be very good for some businesses They shouldn't worry, however, because people will always buy promises of quick fixes
Comment from : Ah, you know

Stephen Krashen actually makes that same point that you do about immigrant kids feeling stupid and therefore not wanting to speak their heritage language
Comment from : Mary Gould

I find the objection to input puzzling How are you meant to learn something without… being exposed to the thing you’re learning a lot?brbrHow am I meant to learn the thousands of words required for fluency without… thousands of words of input? Etc
Comment from : fab006

I'm from Malta where we have two official languages, Maltese and English In education we're taught in both, but the more one specialises the liklier that they're taught exclusively in English Text and speech is typically done in either of the two languages, but there's a bias towards English given it's our linguafranca with the rest of Europe; which results in people growing up as I have, being fluent in both languages and being capable of reading, writing and speaking in both, but due to me being exposed to more English (and English being a useful tool for communicating with people abroad), I feel more comfortable and expressive when using English rather than Maltese
Comment from : Hyblocker

The amont of input I have is usually balanced by the amount of the language I know As a complete beginner in a language, I don't really do any input and just focus on studying basic grammar, vocabulary, and common phrases Once I can understand a few hundred words, I'll start working on my input I'll start at 90 study, 10 input and eventually get to 10 study and 90 input after about 2 years of studying
Comment from : theacp127

My problem with both of these videos is it's two guys talking about anecdotes and trying to make arguments based on what makes sense In no other field of science or research is the pursuit of truth embarked on in this manner Let's hear some research on which methods actually work We can listen to these two guys all day and never know for sure Now even in science you don't know for sure, but at least it's based on clever experiments set up in the real world and not just arguments
Comment from : DANG JOS

How important is input? Well, consider this According to an article on AI today (May 30) in the NYT, a child has read or heard some 100 million words by the time he's 13 years old So it's safe to say those who think they can learn a language by reading or listening (even to comprehensible input) for 15 or 30 minutes a day, or even an hour, are clearly deluding themselves You may not have to listen to 100 million words to learn another language (because you already know a lot of concepts that a child learning his native language does not know), but you do have to read and listen a lot
Comment from : Richard Tessier

Mypersonnel experience completely validate the input theorybrI learned basic english in school but was bot able to speak properly, even in a very basic conversationbrBut a friend gave me hours and hours of us sitcoms and bbc comedy without subtitlesbrI was lonely, there was no internet, and i watched them over and over many timesbrIt lasted a year, and almost instantly become the first in english, so i started to read books, and listen to more content, and in the space of two years i became truly fluent, i wad able to understand nativr speakers completely and speak with them naturallybrbrSo yes, 100, comprehensible massive input is a game changer
Comment from : allafleche

I did a video series #opetp for people to experience for themselves in the shortest possible time that input works 20 minutes a day for a month, it's free I'm interviewing people who watched them all, and they're all conversational Once you've experienced it for yourself there's no going back
Comment from : jan Telakoman

How are you supposed to speak a langauage when you dont even know the words?
Comment from : Lucia Floria

Dogen!!! I saw Dogen in there XD
Comment from : Tim Bauer

Excellent topicbrbrYeah, for linguistic info, like 35 years ago, I used to watch Cangaru channel since he has a lot of experts on, but after like 3 months I realized the info was all over the place and I was getting overwhelmed and confused with so many different angles, plus Yeah, he was emphasizing speaking and doing that with Chinese suckslol it's just too much and trying to master tones and output at same time just sucks ( for me,)brbrI finally stopped watching his channel and got into Matt vs Japan and went the input based route and learning became enjoyable
Comment from : The Way of Spirit

I just watched that video and now this video appears in my youtube recommendation lol
Comment from : Alex Jonathan

I was a receptive immigrant when my parents moved us to Canada at age 5 My English became fully native, while my Hungarian vocabulary stayed at a stunted level, (apple, fork, bed, etc) But, my pronounciation and grammar remained perfect, just from listening to my parents Later, it was relatively easy to fill in the gaps through more diverse input when we moved back in my teenage years
Comment from : Gergely Lukáts

Canguro English wouldn't be the first teacher, specifically content creator, who doesn't understand the principles underlying many teaching methods o techniques they use That's why he had to frame it in such a specific way I honestly have never seen Yes, he is eloquent Yes, he is confident in his ignorance, but that is no excuse I would hardly consider him a thinker or a serious language learning theorist He is just a teacher
Comment from : Erwin Moreno

At 7 years old upon coming from Brazil to the US, I could understand English at a native level due to mass input, but not produce even the simplest of sentences Roughly 3 months later I spoke at the exact same level as all my peers in the US It just needed to be "activated" so to speak
Comment from : Sloop John B

I met a girl who spent 4 years learning English but had very little outside the realm of studying it and gaining input from music mostly After a month or two of talking with me when she was on the UK, she was basically fluent, it was wild how quickly she went from struggling to very competent
Comment from : GoingGalt

I recently passed an exam on english C1 level I only studied english during my high school years (nearly 30 years ago), I have barely never ever spoken english for the last 25 years, I didn´t practice oral skills for the exam and It was all fine The only thing I do is watching videos, movies, series, podcats and reading news/articles all in english That´s all I have the feeling that your mind is 'talking' to you when you read or watch movies passively so you don´t really need hours and hours of speaking At this time, I´m learning arabic, chinese, french and russian at the same time, and the only thing I do is the same, watch videos and read graded texts Let´s see how far I can go within this year
Comment from : Jack Bombay

I was born and raised in Canada by Korean immigrants and I was one of those kids who ended up exclusively speaking English to their parents Like you mentioned, I guess that there was just a certain point where it just became more comfortable to do so after having used it more in most aspects of daily life such as at school, with friends and through media I also think there are two main reasons why such children of immigrants end up stagnating or even declining in their mother tongue:brFirst of all, as we get older, the need for our mother tongue continuously diminishes as we become more independent and require less interaction with our parents Add to the fact that our parents are mostly able to understand us when we use English anyway, the need to speak our mother tongue is pretty much eliminated Additionally, much of the vocabulary that our parents use when speaking to us is very limited in scope (eg "Did you eat anything yet? Where are you going? How was your day?") so even just expanding our passive vocabulary eventually hits a wall once we have acquired the most essential 2k–4k words
Comment from : Daniel Cho

Video👌
Comment from : Superior Being

Does input really work to learn a language? I am dyslexic and really struggling to learn
Comment from : Leslie Lewis-Walker

My danish teacher in schools says “ we take our students and put them in the classroom without knowing a single word and that’s how they learn, the environment like babies they pick up things and repeat it and learn by it” and I can say it works cuz that’s how they make foreigners speak the native country language
Comment from : mariana geststdottir

Firmly believe that you need a lot of input and interaction to truly improve in a language, almost two years in Colombia studying Spanish and my Spanish still sucks, I genuinely believe it would me much better if my wife had a little more patience and spoke to me in Spanish, Especially since her English is much better than my Spanish and the sum total of her language learning is interacting with me
Comment from : Jonas Keep Author

The polyglot side of YouTube scares me Linguists, interprets, speech therapists do research about this stuff Like what is up with all the anecdotal stuff 😭 There's bunch of research Can we please stop referencing these youtubers as experts Pick up a linguistic book on bilinguism or something Also it's called receptive skills vs expressive skills Stop saying input vs output if you wanna look up research 😭! It's not you in particular I'm frustrated by the YouTube polyglots community in general
Comment from : Margaret

I was an ESL teacher I have known a lot of children of immigrant parents When kids are little, their parents are their world But when the start school at 5 or 6, the school and their friends are their world In general, school-age children do not talk to their parents very much, regardless of language or country of origin Children only talk to their parents for a few minutes a day So the language of school and their friends is hugely dominant This example does not prove speaking from day 1 is better In fact, it may prove the input hypothesis After school starts, children of immigrant parents get tiny amounts of input in the form of a few routine things in the language of their parents but they get huge amounts of input in the language of their new country And children of immigrants don't speak from day 1 They get huge amounts of input daily from tv, school, other kids, etc and start speaking when they are ready and the need arises
Comment from : Ron Lugbill

How is it possible that the constant conversations that you had for 3 or so years didn't count as comprehensible input? And how is it that these interactions didn't help you understand more of the language? Did all the convos cover relatively the same subject matter, which kept you from improving?
Comment from : Jonathan Land

I just want to add some anecdotal proof that purely input does do wonders I started learning swedish a little over a year ago because i was going to be starting my exchange year this august I was in full time high school, so i didnt feel like actually ’schooling’ my way through swedish That one year before i moved, i spoke almost nothing, except for to my dog I combed through the internet to watch any swedish videos i could find, subtitles or not and watched those repeatedly Same with other resource i could find, i watched the whole of pippi långstrump on svt (swe subs) and followed the julkalender that year I never touched a grammar book or language app except for on specific things i couldnt figure out myself (like the difference between tycka, tänka, tror) occasionaly Multiple people thought i was crazy, that id learn nothing by just getting input of stuff i barely understood Flashforward to this august, arriving in sweden and blowing people’s minds just by understanding them when they spoke to me in their language It took me about a month to start using swedish myself and ditch the english the mos
Comment from : Emma Kerkhove

Apart from the arguments mentioned in the video and comments it should be noted the the input hypothesis renders language teachers obsolete to a degree or relegates them to just facilitators This could play a part in the hostility to these ideas
Comment from : Glenn Kelly

Joey from AnimeMan and Trash taste
Comment from : Smooth Collision

Speaking early will simply wire you up with very bad pronunciation
Comment from : Ayako Saito

I have learnt 4 languages with professor Krashen's method, 2 of them are at C1 level, 1 is B2 and the last is B1 So I am pretty sure it works
Comment from : Gabor Denes

Part 2: youtube/yBHmuOi5ww8 (might be good to add this to the description)
Comment from : batlin

I am and I attend Mexicans citizens and I realize before they tell me that their parents are Mexican because they have a different accent regardless of whether they grew up all their lives and the United States Depends of the level of need
Comment from : Ricardo Rubén Sosa Alvarez

Seriously, where's Part Two??
Comment from : Movie Reviews Blog

I have dabbled in language learning and have gone through quite some information on the internet, but have only recently found out about this cimprehensible input thing and the hypotheses of Stephen Krashen (not knowing anything about the person) And it just makes sense in some way and I am going to try to use it to try learning another language for real now Maybe I was just not good at searching the internet about language learning theories and methods or I was biased, but I must not be the only one that did not find this about input as the first method or 'way' to learn a new language
Comment from : Rodi de Boer

Hundreds of thousands of bosnians fled our country in the 90s, including a huge part of my family and a lot of friends All of their children that were born later on speak fluent bosnian/serbian/croatian (even tho they were all born and raised away from this region, never had it in school, barely any exposure aside from their parents speaking), ive only met one kid that couldnt speak bosnian, but he was born 20 years after his family came to canada and the family themselves have stoped speaking much bosnian at home, he barely had any exposurebrI myself have learnt english by watching tv and spending time on social media, as have most of my friends When i first started watching american tv shows, i went from knowing 0 english to a2 in just 3 months without actively trying to, i wasnt even aware i knew so much until i went back to school and i could sudenly speak it
Comment from : Ivana Mocevic

I really respect how you still heart comments on old videos
Comment from : RisenNoob

17:00 The history of your cousin is almost the same as The Anime Man's He's an Australian guy who learnt Japanese from Anime and from talking to his mombrbrOne nice thing is that he wasn't able to speak an "Arigato" as a kid, so his mother forced him to spoke to her only in Japanese until Joey got so good he got to speak almost without any accent
Comment from : Zenik

On July 1, 2020 Christian interviewed language researcher Paul Nation, who gave a great shout out to Stephen Krashen's comprehensible input work So Christian regularly interviews language learner icons who credit Krashen's brbrSadly, Christian's video is a truly horrendous mixture of ignorance, bad premises, faulty reasoning, and logical fallacies, together with vitriol, ill-will and an unbelievable absence of kindness and generosity
Comment from : signmeupruss

I really enjoy the work of Christian from Canguro English, but I think on this matter the evidence shows him to be in error: the Input-Hypothesis is well-supported In the online world of deliberate misrepresentation, hyperbole and otherwise seeking one's own objectives, it has to be said the Krashen's idea is the "Input-Hypothesis" and NOT the "Input Only-Hypothesis"brbrSteve Kaufmann, an advocate for Krashen's Input-Hypothesis, calls it getting the language in you But, Steve also notes that to speak well, one must speak; and, to write well, one must writebrbrInput is literally the one and only thing that informs you of how ideas are conveyed by native speakers and writers of one's target language Input tells you vocabulary; input tells you grammar; inputs tells you intonation, stress, emphasis; input tells you sayings, adages, idioms and collocations; and, input tells you about body-languagebrbrI would be interested to know how many languages Christian has learned and how many he has learned without input
Comment from : signmeupruss

As someone who is mostly a receptive bilingual, I can tell you that input is the MOST important thing and that most of your results in language learning will come from that For some context, I am South African, but I have spent most of my life speaking English For the 1st few years of my life (about 1-4 years), I spoke SeSotho But things changed when I had to go to a school where the language of instruction was English, and I had to learn English I think after that, it just stuck brI was already using it in school, and almost all people in my life outside of school could speak English as well, regardless of what their native language was, so people would often speak to me using a mixture of both Sotho and English On top of that, I was one of those kids who spent most of their time in the house, so I spent a lot of time on the internet and watching TV, and reading books, all in English brThere were things on TV that I could watch on TV, but most of it was reality TV and soap operas, stuff I wasn't interested in So, as a result of all that, my English is far better than my Sotho, BECAUSE I've seen it be used in so many different contexts BECAUSE I have more comprehensible input I realize now that the key to being able to speak Sotho better is using the input to learn what I'd say in Sotho if I wanted to greet someone the same age as me, vs someone who's older, or what I'd say in Sotho if I wanted to bring up a new topic in conversation, or what I'd say if I was struggling to find the word for something brI know how to do these things in English because I've seen English speakers do them countless times compared to Sotho In fact, one thing that got me to start speaking it more and improving was moving to an area where a similar language Setswana was used a lot more than English, therefore providing me with more context and input than I'd had living in a place where English is more dominant So the point of this long-ass comment is that yes, although won't work alone, it is the foundation for any sort of language learning you hope to achieve
Comment from : Abbliee

Speaking of Matt, his channel got hacked recently :(
Comment from : Zenik

American living in Germany here Your bit about Germans and French only now starting to speak English well is so spot on I've heard way better English from the Danes as a general rule than Germans or Fresh (again, as a general rule) Good call
Comment from : Jeffrey Barker

I have spent nine years learning classical piano, and five years on French During that time I have had various teachers, and the one thing that stands out is that only one of them seemed to understand the mindset of a student in the various phases of learning This always seems regrettable because the student is forced to, for the most part, find their own path through the hardest part of any subject So as much as I like Canguro, I have to be wary in taking any advice Especially when even teachers seem to disagree on how to teach brI cannot agree with you more about speaking lots but not getting anywhere I thought my speaking skills had improved, but I found my conversations were repetitions of the same old stuff My plan has been to start a radical overhaul of how I am learning, and I have been picking up some good tips from this site Thankyou
Comment from : Earlofmar1

Honestly, this hit hella home for mebrbrI speak 4 languages due to location and family context brbrEnglish - mother tonguebrLuxembourgish - "father tongue"brFrench - home/school from age 3-19brGerman - TV as a kid brbrMy English and French are really good including a pretty decent "sounds good/bad" radar brbrMy German, I got a ton of great meaningful and interesting input and though I didn't use it much (though similar to Luxembourgish which I did use often) - I studied it in school in France as a foreign language where that helped make my German better than my Luxembourgish even though it shouldn't have been so intuitivelybrbrLuxembourgish - I've spoken it all my life to my dad and brother I would go to Luxembourg all the time and use it (among the other languages spoken there) but I never studied it / learned to read it / learned to write it / nor did I ever get properly corrected by my dad so I ended being very aware of my lack of ability even though I clearly speak itbrbrAll to say that input and output work but that's not always enough when the amount of input is slightly more limited (i would only speak it to 2 people on a regular basis and 1 of them being my brother - means that he couldn't really correct me)
Comment from : AJ

Good video , good research !
Comment from : Dyspraxic Academic

It's such a bizarre video in many ways But mainly because basically all his videos (including that one) are input videos for intermediate English learners He speaks slowly in a native English accent so that its easy to consume for learners - that's input learning So I really have no idea what he is on about Coupled with the fact his Spanish accent sounds very 'not Spanish', you can tell he has spent too much time speaking and not enough time with input (I'm the same) I actually think speaking early is still important because it gives you confidence to hold conversations and gives you a sense of progress that's more measurable as well as being easier to practice But it won't help your comprehension or accent anywhere near as much as input
Comment from : Casanaga Tenerife

That guy is an arrogant douchebag masquerading as a humble humanitarian He is purposely misrepresenting what others believe and teach
Comment from : B

The receptive bilingualism argument is bunk for several obvious reasons
Comment from : LinuxStuff

Love your sense of humor It's so down to earth and it's like you're making fun of yourself sometimes :v
Comment from : Sherlock Homeless

my mom had a similar experience to your cousin! her parents both spoke spanish natively and used it around the house, but she only spoke english not a word of spanish in high school she had to take spanish classes, and by the end of her high school career she was completely fluent i hope i have a similar experience 😅 i understand spanish pretty well but im horrible at speaking it but with a little studying i’m sure i can get there
Comment from : David Williams

13:14 "My ten year old?" brbrWhat??? Dude, you look like you're 20
Comment from : Mister Guyman

What are your thoughts on saying flashcard names out loud, only to help you remember the vocab though?
Comment from : John Doe

Output is clearly a skill that needs to be trained just like any other skill, but it has to be based on something You need to know WHAT to say, which is where input comes in Input is the WHAT, output is the HOW In terms of the effort that should be committed to each, I'd say intuitively 80 input and 20 output Your level of comprehension always needs to be above your level of output At some point practising output isn't going to help you until your comprehension increases If output were the only thing, why do we even need learning resources in the first place? Just start speaking Chinese right now Practice makes perfect, right? /s
Comment from : user77

I definitely agree that input is very important I was raised in the US in a Spanish speaking home where everything my kid brother and I watched had to be Spanish Both my brother and I got the same amount of input in spanish as kids I however, am fluent in speaking spanish but he barely can talk The difference is I made an effort to always speak in spanish He reverted to the dominant language of English and has trouble speaking It goes to show how the first half of learning a language is getting the input, but putting it to use is also incredibly important
Comment from : Rafa Gahan

love your videos It's clear the dedication that you put in your content Thank you for sharing what you know about language acquisition and congratulations for your channel
Comment from : Jonathan Lazarte

It's crazy to me that anyone would dismiss the input hypothesis Sure you'll need to eventually practice speaking and practice making the mouth movements but how do you expect to have any idea abot how things are expressed or how they sound if you haven't done a ton of listening and reading? Frankly I disagree with even calling it a hypothesis If you haven't received a ton of comprehensible input, you're just not going to speak or understand very well, full stop
Comment from : hrmIwonder

is Pewdiepie your favourite?
Comment from : J S McKee

Really appreciate the honesty about your own learning experiences, it's really helpful to know what didn't end up working for you!
Comment from : Nicholas Montaño

I am not sure how much speaking practice is necessary to become a fluent speaker However I am convinced, that input is the most important component of language learning If your goal is to become fluent, unless you have to speak(maybe you already live abroad) or you enjoy having conversations with native speakers, speaking is a waste of timebrbrHaving sufficient input is the prerequisite to archiving fluencybrHow are you gonna practice speaking, if you don't even understand the language? You're just going to practice how to say set phrases
Comment from : Julius

I have came across Christian videos but it's too philosophical and few examples that it's hard for me to put into a task or steps that I can do brYes I love input and speaking , grammar and all stuff brBut the problem for most learns seek is one path, what works 100 brGive me step by step guide tutorial and I ll be master brReally ?brI am currently using lingq it's great but most important I love to live in that language watch series , talk with native read book listen to music brYes we love complex philosophical thingbrBut simplicity what I need
Comment from : Mr Rohit Jadhav

I am actually a kind of special case in the sense that I am from a Spanish speaking country but consider myself native in both Spanish and English, I have no preference in either language and often think in both and can convey complex ideas in both just as comfortably This is partly because I attended a British school where all my classes where in English but all interactions with friends, family and on the street were in Spanish My sister who had the exact same environment growing up can obviously speak english fluently but has a thick Spanish accent and makes various mistakes when speaking and writing making it clear that she is not native whereas I am often considered native whenever I speak with English speakers The only difference? Ever since I have been very young I have watched a lot of English youtube, movies, series and so on My sister doesn’t really like English content that much and spent most of her time watching Spanish content The result is that I have a native level English (and even though I attended a British school my accent sounds American since most content I consumed was American, showing that input had a much greater influence on my language skills in English than school did) while my sister has a fluent but clearly second language english level In short, input is king and if you do it long enough you will even catch the accent and everything
Comment from : Ian Stark

Dr Paul Nation is an applied linguist from New Zealand He bases his position on the research He suggests 4 equal strands to learn a foreign language 1 Meaningful input Listening and reading comprehensible material 2 Meaningful output Speaking and writing in a communicative manner 3 Learning about the language Vocabulary, grammar, and pronunciation And 4 Fluency development Reviewing prior input and output that is very easy for the learner and is done quickly brHe does agree with Krashen on comprehensible input but says that should be just 1/4 of your time Meaningful output, learning about the language, and fluency development are also important according to Paul Nations
Comment from : Ron Lugbill

Thanks for helping me to discover Christian's channel! Searching for something in french, found your opinion about input, I went there from curiosity and I saw that his content is amazing
Comment from : Catalin Rachieru

I am one of those receptive bilinguals (English is my third language, btw) While it is true that your level of comprehension is usually much higher than your level of output, frequently using said language (while on vacation in the old country for example), will dramatically improve your output even within a single week So yes, the hypothesis still stands You ido/i actually ilearn/i the language mostly from input Speaking it is just another skillset that relies on your understanding of it
Comment from : Nerzenjäger

I'm a bit on marathon on your channel now :D but this channel is very good, anyway i wanted to say that i wouldn't believe in input based approach if i hadn't learned English to very high level only through input and doing it unconsciously I was just reading and listening to stuff that i enjoyed because of course English side of the internet is the broadest Overtime i became fluent without doing any grammar exercises, without speaking, without nothing That's why i believe in it now in my journey of learning Italian to very advanced level
Comment from : videogamerka000

I watched Matt, Stephen Krashen and several more channels about input I've tried to learn english without any teachers based on the hypothesis and anki, 18 months later it turned out I got 75 ielts Now with the confidence from the prior success I use the same method to learn french and japanese
Comment from : Nguyên Khánh Đỗ

I can relate to your hypothetical mandarin-child argument I’ve been brought up in Germany by a German father and an Indonesian mother My Indonesian sucks but I can understand to certain degree Contributing factors are: brbr1] my mother speaks Jakarta-dialect with heavy use of slang and javanese words from the 80s (when she left the country)brbr2] the main Indonesian input period was when I was a child, so my main input was how you talk to a child brbr3] before a few years ago it was really hard to get any Indonesian media so yes I did not have so much input except for my parents, family friends and childhood summer holidays (after which I spoke fluent Indonesian) I can understand things she tells me in the certain kind of conversations and informations we exchange and I have a real intuition for the vibe of Indonesian words but this is not comparable to real exposure to a language brbrAlso: Germany lacks having "many" Indonesians (glancing at Netherlands) :(
Comment from : Sean Lennart