Are Electric Drum Sets FINALLY BETTER THAN Acoustic Drums?

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Title	:	Are Electric Drum Sets FINALLY BETTER THAN Acoustic Drums?
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Doesn't matter what I thinkwhat do YOU think? Leave a comment and let me know!brbrAlmost every conversation I have with drummers about electric drum sets have a negative slant to them Why is that? BECAUSE OF THE HIHAT!!!brbrIn this video I teamed up with Sweetwater to talk about the new Roland V-Pad VH-14D Digital Hi-Hat Controller that they have developed that FIXES all of the issues with electronic drum set hihatsbrbrI’m playing a Roland TD-27 KV Electronic Drum Set Gen 1 drum set in this video The gen 2 of this kit comes with the upgraded hihat I have never loved playing on electric drums…but this changed that It was extremely enjoyable to play an electric hihat that responded in real time to my drumming needsbrbrRoland V-Pad VH-14D Digital Hi-hat Controller: impi114863net/gbZy3AbrbrRoland TD-27 KV Electronic Drum Set Gen 1: impi114863net/oeEQrObrbrRoland TD-27 KV Electronic Drum Set Gen 2 (comes with VH-14D HiHat): impi114863net/0JL04R
Comment from : Stephen Taylor

1200 dlls I will rather go to a nice vacations with my wife and keep my acustic drum set
Comment from : Rubén J

2023 and we are being sold outdated tech but with the privilege of being in drum form Embarrassing
Comment from : Brian McGuire

I believe these companies for the longest time could have brought precise, sophisticated, and accurate hi hat technology but hadn't because most of the companies that have the money for Research nd Development didn't invest because of their stretched resources in other instruments production while the dedicated electronic drum companies haven't the market share and therefore resources to be more innovative over bigger competition Today with AI technology you could easily imagine an algorithm that could self learn to where the sweet spots of an actual hi hat could be properly triggered from a electronic source The embarrassing thing about electronic drums is the lack of REAL investment from the producers of such products I'm hereby predicting the future of the best hi hat e drum AI attached computation within the brain module Not just a sound source producer, but also a more refined input reciever responding outputs based on hi hat strike placements The reality is we have long been ripped off by basic shouldering and cheap technology production The iPhone by apple has developed beyond expectations in less years drum companies had at grappling the technology themselves Cheap production, bloated pricing What chips do they even use btw
Comment from : Brian McGuire

If you just use a drum VST like EZDrummer 3 (less than $200), you can easily avoid the hi-hat issue, and you don't need any expensive hi-hat kits to make it work EZDrummer3 (and SD3 is even better) has step adjustments and sensitivity adjustments for the hi-hat in software You can adjust at exactly what reassure point you want the samples for the different open/closed zones to trigger EZDrummer usually has up to 2-3 different open/closed zones I think - while Superior Drummer has around 4-8, depending on the kitbrbrA drum VST will ALWAYS give you a more convincing sound than a module
Comment from : Landon P

Hello people of the world!! Use E drums with a real hi hat One mic only is needed Hi hats are not so lound so you dont need a drum cage
Comment from : NewsWire Desk

E d3ums are a different animal The latest models can do things out of the box like give you studio quality sounds that will cost you thousands of dollars to replicate
Comment from : A2 Z2

This video is awful Dude, edit it It could have been 2 minutes
Comment from : Sport

I have a very nice acoustic set, but I play my electric in the house I have a Simmons SD1250 and liked it at first, but hate it now! Kick drum and pedal miss so many notes if you try and play remotely fast HH is of course like you say The snare has to be hit just right to make any decent sound, and the toms have to be hit pretty hard to hear any sound! As far as ghost notes go, forget it! I have a huge need for an electric set, but if this is any indication of what I can expect from an electric kit, I’m absolutely done spending anymore money on an electric set!
Comment from : Chris Jones

I just want to know where the corporate folks said, "Ya, let's put electronic drum heads on acoustic drum shells but instead of using full-size shells, we only make them half the length That will look real cool and serve absolutely no purpose other than to make sure no one's fooled that they're acoustic drums" Lol😅
Comment from : A B

The only way to go!! Roland's digital snare, ride and hats are ridiculous great! So now let's digitize the toms and cymbals (w wireless connections) C'mon!!
Comment from : Stikkman

For people with families E-kit is esential
Comment from : Jason Oare

I agree with many on here Sitting down with the manual for several hours and learning how to tweak every little thing makes a big difference Can go from ok to great quickly
Comment from : Chris

Classic case of engineers developing products they don't actually use Also, E-Kit costs have a way to high barrier to entry, you can get an AMAZING acoustic kit for less than the cost of that hi-hat
Comment from : Andrew Raia

I took 1 spring off my kv17 hihat and it helped me 100000 percent
Comment from : Rob Lucas

Have people tried the hihat pad setup calibration
Comment from : drum-jitsu

Vh11 hihat 180 quid second hand
Comment from : drum-jitsu

The td9 is the best rolnd kit the vh11 works lik a real higat on it it also has a note spacing screen so you can see jow xlose your timing is with a xlick (this alone is a phenominal practice tool) stick to a td9 and buy vh11 serious ive owned a td 10 a td20 a td 30 a td 25(25 is awfull)
Comment from : drum-jitsu

Everyone complaining about the electric hi-hats on kits within the about £2000-£5000 range Meanwhile I’m stuck with a Yamaha DTXplorer where THE HI HAT IS A LITERAL RUBBER PAD 2 sounds, open or closed, the pedal is completely separate that just goes on the ground wherever, on maximum sensitivity setting I still have to sink my leg into that fucking pedal to register as closedbrbrAnd don’t even get me started on doing footsplashes with that piece of shit
Comment from : LightningJet

WOW First video of yours I've ever watched and 9 minutes into a 12 minute video before you actually play the title product? 9 minutes of repeating the same horseshit? Yeah, take care
Comment from : Orvil

Electronic drums will never ever ever ever be the same as an acoustic kit I stopped playing 15 years ago when I moved on my own at 19 years old and couldn’t play due to close proximity neighbors Many times I’ve thought about sinning and buying electric cause I missed playing Every time I see the cost of a decent e kit, it makes me sick I can buy my dream acoustic kit for those amounts
Comment from : superavd88

How long do u have to make the point??? Can we hear the new hi hat already??? We get it
Comment from : JBohlz*Tube_hitz

I have an Alesis nitro it's awesome!!! I would buy a acoustic kit before I payed so much for that they love their name!!!
Comment from : Tres Verde

Paying a ton of money for a bunch of piazos in rubber I have a Alexis nitro and I love it lol
Comment from : Tres Verde

😡 For $1,150, it better play like a real hi-hat!!
Comment from : 2010camaro

Good god man, get to the point Either you think you are hilarious, love the sound of your own voice, or have early onset alzheimers Fuhk
Comment from : joe risch

Yes the HH on playability but the bigger issue is translation now that we have the great digital Roland HH Live is it the air from the drums, mic bleed? why is the presence lost live on an entire e kit vs acoustic Sound guys can bring the volume way down because they can but there is a fatness that seems lost live via mic vs samples I can't explain we need science but something is lost overall
Comment from : Steve in Florida

I have the Td 27kv with the VH 10 Honestly, you just have to play with it a little bit Yes, electronic hi hats are not perfect However, I managed to get mine to where I barely notice any issues
Comment from : K Adamson

Let me tell you I perform mostly for studio work on the Roland VH Cymbals for quite some time now and I never looked back ever since It's absolutely nuts how beautiful and close they sound to the acoustics In my opinion you won't find any better electronic cymbals out there and I tried them all Thanks for all the great content and keep up the good work! -CeeHimself
Comment from : Cee Himself

that sweetwater coming to your hose joke was epic
Comment from : dejosupa

Electric drums are way easier to play than acoustic and they always sound like mic’d drums Still I prefer a thick maple acoustic kit
Comment from : Bill S

can you do fast 16ths on this e kit hats like you can do with an acoustic hi hats ? ( The Moeller 2 stroke on the edge and top )
Comment from : Tony Eads

too much complainingI've played for over 65 years and have the same 4 piece Slingerland set since 1963 with an 18 x 20 floor tom, and the one before that frigging annoying vid
Comment from : Domenic V

Hey man, I’m trying to buy an electronic drum set (Alesis surge mesh), and before that was on my mind, I was thinking of buying an alesis sample pad pro Could you make a video or a podcast on the main difference between them pls???
Comment from : Richo S Kraist

I'm a keyboard player, and I prefer my keyboard to any acoustic piano because it can do so much more and make so many more sounds The difference in sound or feel from my 88-key weighted keyboard (that's the important part) playing the piano sound and an acoustic piano is insignificant to me brbrOf course, the upright piano I learned on as a kid was over 100 years old and horrendous, so that might have something to do with my preference for keyboards My parents still have that piano, and it has gone from horrendous to completely useless It's just a piece of furniture now I tried to play it not long ago, and it was incredibly out of tune Even if it got tuned, the action was so bad that you had to bang on the keys (even 30 years ago when I was learning on it) to get much sound out of it It's pretty to look with the lid closed at but awful to playbrbrOne of the best things about electronic drums is being able to practice without disturbing others I even like practicing my keyboard with headphones for the same reason, especially when I am not "ready for prime time"
Comment from : Daniel Dougan

IMO, the fact that decent E-kit pricing is even remotely comparable to a gig-ready acoustic kit is just crazy Expecting drummers to pay gigging-tool prices for practice tools is nutso I couldn't imagine ever actually gigging with an E-kit I've only ever seen one E-kit at a live gig And honestly, it was pretty comical to me Right up there with headset mics and music stands
Comment from : Todd Kelly

Add the Vxpressions upgrade $75 and your ekit will be the only thing you'll want to play
Comment from : lucyferina

I found the whole TD27 for$1500 with all 3 digital pads, normally $3500, but it was the store display which was barely used so it was a steal
Comment from : lucyferina

The Hihat has never bothered me and I've had lots of different edrum kits They have all worked wellbrThe sound quality grabbed me with edrums - studio quality sound in stereo - not to mention that transporting them is a breeze Also having so many kits and sounds is amazingbrI'll NEVER go back to acoustics
Comment from : Ian Hinrichsen Drums and Bass

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Comment from : DIY CHANNEL

You should try to practice with Yamaha's hi-hat, RHH-135
Comment from : quattro4s

Fast forward 20 years of technology and yup, cymbals still suck gotcha
Comment from : Christo

So, what you're saying is, I get an E-drum kit and an acoustic Hi-Hat and I should be good until I can afford the real deal?
Comment from : Skarloey Express

8:35 thank me later
Comment from : PapaNoeldo

Electronic Hi-hats are getting better, and a "good" electronic drum kit is very close to playing an accustic set Still, an accustic kit in many ways is more fun and "better" to play, but e-kits are a lot of fun to play, and the top line e-kits are almost like playing an accustic kit I am an e-kit player since I live in a condo complex in the woods and my accustic kit, even if I try to play softy echos through the complex I do miss certain things about playing an accustic kit, but I do have a blast playing my e-kit
Comment from : Jeff Frank

I really want a set so I can play in an apartment with headphones on To me the kits under 1k aren't worth buying if you play drums alot, but can't justify spending 3k for a good electric set They need to better on prices It's all plastic and rubber I don't understand it
Comment from : Sam Hendren

I'm intermediate and I play the Yamaha DTXPRESS IV, but I'm considering getting the Roland TD-27 KV Electronic Drum Set Gen 2 I would love some advice on this
Comment from : LegoDrummerDude07

I'm a reluctant e-drummer To me e-drums are no where near as satisfying to play but for sound control for rehearsing and small venues, no mics and plug-and-play recording (and near silent practicing at home) there are a lot of strong arguments for e-drums Damn it 😄
Comment from : Doug F

Electronic drums are already a reality
Comment from : Eu não sabia mas eu fiz

Electric drums sound nice but look flimsy and their setup seems limited Not sure how they'd sound or hold up if you play hard and the expense and hassle just to find out is steep
Comment from : Gumby

Fuck man, you're just talking all the way through the video! It'd be nice to actually have a good moment to listen to the hi- hat sound and make a personal judgement on it as a drummer
Comment from : andre vilchez

I wouldn’t say better, but certainly a unique versatile instrument worth consideration E-drums are amazing as a MIDI controller with unlimited sound possibilities! They eliminate the need for MICROPHONES or SOUND PROOF STUDIO Big plus is MINIMAL NOISE for family and neighbors My Roland TD 11KV with mesh pads ($550 used) does an amazing job and weights about 50 lbs No regrets I would NEVER pay $1200 for a Hi Hat
Comment from : Kirtan Dreamrezzer

What kick pedal do you recommend for this kit? Will any ol' pedal do or do you need specific kinds? Asking for a drummer
Comment from : Jay Kent

Hmmmm… I guess for those who may not be as versed in the electronic drum set market, this may be helpful No disrespect to Sweetwater or you Stephen (love ya both), but there are other options in the edrum space that would be worth looking at Here’s a quick list of anyone’s interested:brbr- ATV Adrumsbr- Efnote 5xbr- Efnote 3xbr- ATV EXS-5 br- GEWA G5 ProbrbrNot saying all of these are cheaper or also way better, but if you’re looking into Edrums with 2 piece hi-hats, these would be worth the lookbrbrAlso not sure how you made the comparison at 10:45 Outs hard to compare an edrum set to an acoustic one 2 different breeds But great video regardless!
Comment from : Ben

My reason for leaning towards an electric kit for the studio is the room treatment, microphones brAnd volume that comes with an acoustic kit I can have 2 am studio sessions and not have an issue My dilemma is using brass with the electric kit or just stick with the electric cymbals
Comment from : A Chrest

Stephen, I have been an exclusive E-Kit user since the late 90's and strictly Roland since early 2K Gigging live on 506's w TD50 and TD27KV depending on space and type of gig I have yet to switch to the 14D I will at some point but the settings in these modules work very well Most cases it's the user and lack working knowledge of the the unit to make the adjustments they need for themselves Sweetwater is a great company but I would order the hats from Japan and they are selling on avg around $700 50 years plus playing have not gigged on an acoustic set live since 96/97E-Kit are here to stay, as you know they are used everywhere, TV studios and shows , major concerts usually masked by other drum manufactures so the audience doesn't notice Neil Peart was a big advocate of E-drums as well as many others You video is great and so are you! You are an asset to the drumming community
Comment from : Joe Mac

I have these they suck
Comment from : Rick LaPorte

For how much Roland charges One would think they would have had enough money for the R&D to figure this out years ago
Comment from : drummer4hire12

I've found using a higher spring tension and done washers on top of the hihat controller solved most of the issues
Comment from : iPhail

Great, I have a TD27 at home and at TD50X at the church That means I need to drop $2400 to fix my headache 😢
Comment from : Christs Kingdom

If all these hi-hats suck? Wouldn't it just be possible to use a real hi-hat and Mic it up?
Comment from : Andrew J Castaneda

Nice Video Stephen , yep Hi-hat always bugged me , same with dual zone cymbals , but HI-hat clinchs the title of the wrost element on e-drum kits , the only thing I found as an advantage to played Electronic versus acoustic was 2 main things , one time has to be impeckable on electronic ( acoustic has more wash and metric time not as obvious) , next playing with a quieter stage volume , e-drums are great , because you can still get a full sound without having to overload small stages with drum volume Otherwise I still prefer Acoustic !!!
Comment from : ARGBlackCloud

Electronic drums will never be better than an acoustic set
Comment from : James H Henderson

Yep, I was already looking into just making mine a hybrid, with the hh
Comment from : Chris Fox

Your girdle spring guy is a knockoff
Comment from : Chris Young

What you missed in this video is the fact that an e-kit also has settings Most problems with the hi-hat can be solved simply from the settings Yes, they are more expensive than a classic kit, but they can offer much more if you know how to use them Until recently, I wasn't a fan of e-kits at all, but after entering their world a little bit, I realized how wrong I had been looking at them for so many years Yes, it's expensive, but it's fun and you can use them even in an apartment without disturbing anyone
Comment from : Marius

Great video! I can afford it, but I'm not down to spend $1200 on a rubber hi-hat pedal You could buy a complete set for that amount You could even buy a roland spd sx pro, Alesis Strike, or even a DTX and still be under
Comment from : Anthony Huerta

Ah, shoot when a hi hat upgrade costs nearly as much as your entire kit
Comment from : ericIIDX

Resuming it all: e-kits are more practical but acoustic drum kits are and will be always better than e-kits
Comment from : El Cracken Gaitós_BS

What about the high hats from Efnote?
Comment from : Gurty

i run a Simmons Titan 50 and i looove it! cymbals are a little loud when the sticks hit but its a solid kit in my opinion Also send me a link for those wall lights!!!!!
Comment from : DavidDrumming666

Believe it or not, I’ve had 0 issues with my Strike Pro SE hats Their response, sounds, and sensitivity haven’t given me any issues Yes, actual hats are always gonna be the best, but no complaints from my Alesis
Comment from : Jake Kennedy

I have a TD 30 and I dont use the electronic H/H anymore because It does feel real, because it does not respond to my foot pressure and to the altering weight I put behind my right hand and sticks hitting them brbrWhen I play the TD 30 I just use a usual acoustic H/H and overall it sounds much better I think Great for me but hard for those who want to play quietly!br The manufacturers are getting additional money with these upgrades This should have been sorted out eons ago! brbrI also play an acoustic kit and whilst it is louder, it also produces a much wider acoustic dimension than the electronic kit The TD 30 though in its favour, is a great kit with lots of sounds and dimensions My band mates ( in three bands) are re split on their preferences brBoth are good, I enjoy playing both of them in different situations Each have their strengths and weaknesses There is no right way or wrong way Maybe its a case of play what you have and love it! cheers everyone!
Comment from : Drumsand Stix1

You should check the new Hi Hat from Roland! It's on the VAD 507 they pretty much nailed out of the park!
Comment from : Herberto Neto

Sold me I have an Alesis DM10 Studio kit It plays when it feels like I can't play sixteenths on any pad/plastic disk because I only get to hear 10 - 14 of them not necessarily in the same order I have updated, set up, edited parameters, reset to default, repeat so many times It is now just an expensive practice pad set I will never buy Alesis again and judging by this video there is no value in exposing myself to any e-drum until the manufacturers stop churning out garbage and expecting us to accept it What is the point in a lower cost drum kit if it doesn't play like a drum kit? I don't buy a car in the expectation that I am going to have to put usable seats and a functioning steering wheel in it before I can drive it!
Comment from : Hal B

You look like you are in so much pain when you talk You ok bro?
Comment from : Kendrick Carroll

All things considered I'd rather play acoustic, but when buying an acoustic drumset, one of the things you have to "add to cart" is a house!
Comment from : z

you can never go wrong with a Roland highly recommended
Comment from : nisancashi2241

98 talking, 2 review, 00000001 playing the hi hats without talking over it
Comment from : Crom

Electric drums suck
Comment from : Peter Griss

I had the same issue with the high-hats After setting the clutch range in setup and the bottom out position, all worked much better than the vanilla settings
Comment from : Elwin Beall

Imagine the cymbals and hardware you can buy for 4k
Comment from : Ace G

Now we just need Lemon to reverse engineer it in the analog domain and make 1/3 the cost so we can use on Alesis Strike Pro SE or other non-digital capable module
Comment from : James Marquette

BS
Comment from : tj 1911

As someone who prefers an ekit because acoustics are too loud, this is a game changer Hope price becomes more affordable though
Comment from : Hokkid Drums

Bro, you talk WAY too much You repeated yourself so many times that at one point I thought I went back a few minutes accidentally I'm sure you love hearing yourself but make the object of the video THE STAR There was literally about 1 minute of actual demonstration of the hi hat which puts YOUR FCKN VOICE at 11+ minutes Yeah, needless to say I ain't subbing I'll check back in 6 mos to see if you chopped your soapbox down to a floor mat
Comment from : Gabriel DeStellano

I just came here to make fun of your video title That's like saying urine is better for you than spring water Not watching more than 1 second
Comment from : Dé Comics

so its treated as a different instrument and can make the same vibe
Comment from : Rodger David

Are all musicians this dramatic
Comment from : Cliht Yeastwood

This is not to mention the endless (and i mean endlesssss) amount of extremely underpriced drumsets being sold second hand on Facebook marketplace im not joking when i say ive seen multiple 1-2k drumsets going for 400 sometimes 150!! Its insane how good the secondhand market sells drums for they just want them gone!brIf you have a bunch of churches nearby ull also often find churches selling old drumsets which are often in really good pristine shape
Comment from : Sucio

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Comment from : another one channel

To the commenters saying e-drums can't 'beat' accoustic drums This is like saying electric guitars can't beat accoustic guitars
Comment from : BD

OK, dumb question from someone who has no clue about drumming and drum kits: If electronic hi-hats are so awful, can´t you just combine an acoustic hi hat with an otherwise electronic drum kit?
Comment from : thu 2000

As a non-drummer (amateurish) producer/composer I would see more benefits to an e-kit than just the price tag You can record silently, save on expensive microphones and acoustic treatment of the room (this is lots of money), you can record MIDI and choose the best samples later, correct performances, change the kit sound per pad on a whim, etc A drummer might swear by his favorite acoustic kit, just as I cannot live without my real tube amps (plugins being cheaper and pretty good these days), and that's totally understandable It is a different tool for a different target audience
Comment from : Gastón Pössel