Ask Prof Wolff: Marx on the Role of the State

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Title	:	Ask Prof Wolff: Marx on the Role of the State
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There are Stalisnist statist socialist and socialist that want dispersion of power and workers to control production
Comment from : Covered In Thorns

yes, communism is entirely an economic system not really a political system at all not sure where the rightwingers get that "the state wants to crush us" lie it's a bizarre one lol!!
Comment from : Elizabeth Bennet

Thanks for the clarification I always promote your channel I do urge you to go beyond the traditional Capitalist, Socialist, Communist ideologies The global population and pollution need urgent solutions that make these ideological differences irrelevant to our survival as a species The new world order will be forced to adopt a stringent environmental government, where the elected state officials, regulate what is produced, how it is produced and in what measure it is consumed It will also be forced to regulate population None of the current ideologies have comprehensively demonstrated competency, which is why we now have Extinction Rebellion! They believe our governments are failing to lead Your discussions need to widen and include their concerns Invite their spokesperson onto your channel
Comment from : RDG

Communism for the 1 Rugged Individualism for the 99
Comment from : Aermydach

But wasn't Wolffe defending a fascist totalitarian state such as China???
Comment from : David

Thank you for explaining the two types of Markism Not with standing the two versions, what does the left now? Obviously they want more governmental control/open borders /stacking the supreme court etc etc Which system do you and the left recommend that meets the requirements of the Constitution and other founding fathers set up? I think this is a better question than theone you chose
Comment from : Gabe Pace

Dear Professor Wolff, a question for Ask Prof Wolff: How about do a treatment on Marx / Marxism and the question of religion? Must religion for a Marxist always be an "opiate of the people"?brFor in the heart of religion is a direction / effort at shepherding people to a better & just society brThe Marxist's charge that religion is an "opiate of the people" has frequently been used by religious people to denounce Marx & Marxism
Comment from : Garioch Sionnach

It is true that Marxism and Capitalism can’t survive alone by itself, they have to co-exist The degree on each side would depend on the government A good balance of both would bring prosperity to majority, if is the the goal of the people US and China are two very good examples representing the opposite
Comment from : Alveron Ng

It's funny to me that discussions like this hold Marx up as some sort of God He's just a man--by all means concur with him, but don't adhere to his texts like gospel
Comment from : CEV12

Dr Wolff: Time to reread Lenin's State and Revolution To omit this work on a discussion of the state is very troubling
Comment from : Glenn Gamst

Thanks Prof Wolff for clarification Wish the working class in the US get more interested and educated regarding Marx re capitalismbrAnd everyone should and by now see with their eyes and experience the oppression /dysfunction/ corruption of the US (the STATE ) government which has always been in cahoots with the corporate state billionaires class!
Comment from : Jane

Hurry up and get it done, Professor Time’s a-wasting The divide and conquer impetus is alive and well Later for you, bud
Comment from : Ibraahiym Kadessh

I doubt that Marx and Engels ever anticipated that there would be so many boneheads talking about a "socialist state" - a massive contradiction in terms There is no state in socialism - its redundant!brSocialism (or communism for that matter - the terms are synonymous) has never existed!
Comment from : David Tildesley

Glad to hear Richard staying to quote Lenin That's part of the reason why the American left is so stuck because we're in the beginning stages of socialist understanding
Comment from : mrduckman225

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“The state is composed of its people”brbrConcentration of Power is invariably a bad idea - and Capitalism facilitates concentration of economic power This concentration of power - ultimately, of monopoly - when combined with concentrations of political power - results in bFascism/bbrbrIt would seem that there is a connection between (non-regulated) capitalism and autocratic government How strong of a connection - I suspect it varies I am seeing a fairly solid connection in this here and nowbrbrI’m grinding through this on my own - much as if I’m too fatigued, or too stupid, to read I have yet to read Marx
Comment from : Dennis Young

wow,that was well explained sir WOLFE
Comment from : Mike Depidep

Prof Wolff, you have down played the role of the state Under capitalism the state serves to maintain the rule of the capitalists over workers This state cannot be reassigned to a democratic workers state It has to be smashed, it is a capitalist formation It’s all the non elected generals, judges, heads of police, royalty, spy chiefs etc The architecture of the capitalist state makes its purpose solely the oppression of workers, it cannot be repurposed It has to be destroyed I’m sure you know this, but it needs to be spelled out
Comment from : Alan Woodcraft

So you're saying that first of all Marx aligned with the idea iwe need to create a workers' state/i in order to stop capitalists from simply thwarting our efforts to create better industries via the Liberal government
Comment from : reverse dragon

God, I sure hope this Communist or anyone like him NEVER get any power in our Country! This man is clearly a left wing nut case!
Comment from : Teena

Wolff spouts out some of the silliest stuff I've ever heard In the modern world, the way for a worker to get ahead is to buy shares of multiple different companies Some companies pay their workers with shares in that company; this is a dangerous business because the company's stock can easily decline (or worse: Think Enron!) Wolff thinks democracy is the answer to everything This is total nonsense!
Comment from : Joan Blond

I think we need to change the term "democratic socialsm" to "democratic capitalism " brThat is the goal here so let's call it that I believe more people will listen and be interested in what that means
Comment from : Jerry Hann

marx had no notion of democracy neither does his successors so we get oligarchies of apparatchiks in place of politicians neither group much concerned about anything beyond striving for more power in the hierarchybrbut until power is in the hands of the citizens of democracy, there will never be any chance of the benefits of society being widely spread, nor will there be a defense against aggrandisement by would-be elitesbrprof wolff ignores political reality, it's in his 'too hard' basket economists can tell us how to manage society, but they have no answer to the retort of politicians: "come back when you have power"
Comment from : Al Loomis

Why don't you sell this idea to communist North Korea, Cuba, China, bla bla bla? I'm sure they will never do it Since these States love the corrupt absolute power they have
Comment from : Carlo Tony Daristotile

If i remember correctly, das kapital had many more planned volumes than were published, one of which was planned to be about the state and the usage of the state by and for the working class This is very much what these same socialists of the 20th century were hell-bent on practicing and trying, because of those experiments, because in the end thats what they were (and still are), teach us a lot about the role of the state, its strengths, especially in world war 2, invasions, the cia, etc, and its weaknesses, chances at corruption and the like
Comment from : No longer TND

IT IS FUNNY THAT MANY MARXIST DO NOT KNOW WHAT MARXISM IS MARX DID CLAIM THAT WITHIN THE CAPITALIST SYSTEM THE INDIVIDUAL IS ALIENATED FROM NATURE, HUMAN NEEDS, MEANING, AND WORK/ CAPITAL ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE ONLY EXISTING ANTAGONIST VALUES MARX DID CONSEQUENTLY BELIEVE THAT AFTER A CRISIS OF CAPITALISM AN ORGANIC UTOPIAN SOCIETY WOULD BE FORMED IN WHICH INDIVIDUAL AND COLLECTIVE INTERESTS ARE FUSED THE STALINIST IDEA OF A PLAN ECONOMY DOMINATED BY THE STATE FAILED THE WILL TO FORM DEMOCRATIC COMMUNITIES OF COOPERATIVES WAS CONSEQUENTLY THE LAST IDEAL OF MARXIST ----------------- YET, MARX WAS FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG FROM THE BEGINNING WITHIN CAPITALIST REALITY ARE INDIVIDUALS NOT ALIENATED FROM THEIR WORK/ INVESTMENT BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND ITS PERSONAL AND SOCIAL PURPOSE WORK AND CAPITAL ARE NEGATIVE ABSTRACTIONS WHICH DEHUMANIZE THE ECONOMICAL PROCESS SOCIO-CAPITALIST SOCIETY IS GOOD, NATURAL, RATIONAL!!!!!!!! AND THAT IS WHY IT IS SO SUCCESSFUL (MARXIST TODAY ARE ALIENATED CHILDREN)
Comment from : MARCION PHILOLOGOS

The state is not the state It's an extension of corporate power
Comment from : Twisted Operator

I'd love to see Dr Richard debate Jordan Peterson
Comment from : MKL951

Our world is far too complex to ditch the State, it can't be done That being said, I'll make a declaration: the greatest threat to humanity is psychopathy It may be helpful to look at our business "leaders" and ask ourselves if they are pathological or not This gets tricky, I know, but all of you may want to read "Snakes In Suits" by Paul Babiak and Robert Hare Prof Hare is the world's leading authority on psychopathy, and he and Paul coined a phrase in the book, "corporate puppetmasters" They use this phrase to describe a type of psychopath that displays all the worst traits of psychopaths And if you put a sub-clinical psychopath (roughly 10 of the population) in a position of power (political or otherwise) they will act like a corporate puppetmaster to the extent they think they can get away with it To save time (and more writing) they provided two figures from history as examples, one was Hitler and the other was Stalin brbrNote that Stalin was nearly as damaging to his society as the Nazis were And this in a society that was to be a workers paradisebrbrThe system at the center of a society is vastly important, but so to are the people in charge We just endured four years of a maniacal, self-absorbed tyrant who thought he could become the dictator or "Presidente Para Vida" Personality matters We need to find a way to prevent malevolent people from taking control of our society Anyone got any ideas on how we can do that?
Comment from : Rick Emmet

USA show when STUPID idiots VOTE and this alleged idiot wants DEMOCRAPS to run production ? INSANITY !!! My opinion
Comment from : Planet of the Idiots

idiots should NOT care what their boss makes ONLY would they make and what they can BUY
Comment from : Planet of the Idiots

under usa capitalism all the state's power is held by the 1 and the establishment criticises big government what nonsense!
Comment from : Drake Koefoed

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Comment from : Paul Adams

Wolff sugar coats it Just recently he was saying there'd be room for self employed in socialism but not employers This would mean they'd need to use force, since the business owners would probably not go without a fight That necessitates having a state, with a police department or something of the sort to enforce their dictates
Comment from : chuck leaf

Great video Prof
Comment from : Social Credit Score

But if they had done away with the state, what would Lenin and Stalin have done for work? brbrTest this: every worker has three complaints: aspirational, agitated, and legitimate Aspirational is like a better world ahead Agitated complaints are the aspirational hopes that your political opponents arouse Legitimate complaints include roads without potholes now What Marx/Lenin/Stalin perfected was a gulag system where the state quells its citizens' aspirational and legitimate complaints simultaneously by silencing the agitators and putting them to work fixing potholes
Comment from : crimony

Professor Wolff, what would you say to libertarians or the "anarcho capitalists" who say "true capitalism" is independent from the state and vice versa, when you say that the state helps in the reproduction of capitalism?brbrAnd what are your thoughts on anarchists? They believe that we shouldnt capture the state at all, but abolish it outright immediately, and that the state cannot just "fade away"
Comment from : Chad Marx

Excellent explanation!
Comment from : Frank Frank

I thought this was fun: "They say you can't fix STUPID, and it turns out you can't quarantine it either"brbrStill, you have to give the commenters of "democracy at work "credit" as they are workingbrhard to "self-quarantine"
Comment from : J GALT

So in the end, Marx like Wolff, contradicts himselfand in "capitalism" ( industrial ) workersbrare NOT exploited ( Hudson ) and Steve Keen in his recent interview with Lex Fridmanbrfurther explains Marx contradictionwho's realization is responsible for his "mature"brtransition Of course, that economics is itself BS is the more important revelationbrand should be avoided as a career at all costs That we can expect Wolff to mature anytimebrsoon, is probably overly optimistic
Comment from : J GALT

You cpuld easily argue, Prof Wolff, that it was indeed Marx's premise that the State cpuld help drive these changes which opened the floodgates to newfound 'progressive' ideologies within Government and State that these can be used oppurtunistically as Political weaponizations to enhance a Political party/agenda brbrWhat marx assumed was/is that opening the Eyes of these exactingly corrupt minded pillars would strike a chord in the right direction Yet, what was actually achieved was/is a reverse engineered mindset of more proficient exploitation using the System brbrAgainst it's own People
Comment from : Kuhan Dharmarajan

State more powerful isn’t good for we the people
Comment from : Improvised survival

En Marx se puede advertir una filosofía del capitalismo brillante, es una pena que no se estudie en las facultades de economía pues puede alumbrar muchos puntos ciegos de la teoría clásica y si la economía es una ciencia, debería y debe estar sometida al rigor de la realidad y no solo a simples modelos matemáticos En este aspecto es obligatorio empezar a hablar de bio economía, pues estamos indisolublemente anclados a los límites finitos del planeta y las leyes de la termodinámica Evidentemente el Estado per se no es una garantía de justicia social, el derecho moderno es la vieja espada del feudalismo Autores anarco capitalistas como Hayek y Von Misses fueron sagaces en advertir cómo encorsetar la voluntad soberana de una nación mediante estructuras superiores al servicio del capital, la Ue es una muestra de ello La competencia perfecta es un cuento, pues a la postre, lo que existe es un oligopolio internacional que pugna por recursos para consolidar su primacía internacionalmente y en ese afán los estados son adláteres La política monetaria es un instrumento para ello, pues las reglas de juego están predeterminadas y hay poco espacio para alternativas El estatus quo es la base del sistema y la disidencia será castigada legal y materialmente Personalmente tampoco le encuentro gracia a los modelos cooperativos,pues desgraciadamente lo que ha de ser la voz de la razón se convierte en una coral desafinada No obstante lo importante no es llegar a Ithaca, si no el camino Algunos lo llamamos utopía Saludos cordiales, seguimos!
Comment from : alejandro mol

I think the state should not so much control the means of production, but that it should create law that makes cooperative production and employee ownership the main driver of the economy
Comment from : San Diego Pete

"Capitalism has never met a Democracy it couldnt defeat"brDCPbrPeace!bro/
Comment from : David Peppers

…would love to sit in one of your lectures in person - bet it’s even more impactful Thank you for sharing your thoughts they bring solace in the world of chaos - of the natural and unnatural kind
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What are the driving ethics behind the different theories? brWouldn't language workshops help us to answer the state?
Comment from : Amy Martin

Thank you !!!
Comment from : GrndpaHawk

I love Prof Wolff!
Comment from : JEFF REYWILL STEWART

The dictatorship of the proletariat!
Comment from : Renata Novato

Marx had two major criticisms of capitalism, and leftists conveniently forget one of them namely the anarchy of capitalist production As Marx says in the communist manifesto, they create a monster they cannot control In order to address this anarchy Marx advocated 'rational and conscious planning' To achieve a planning system requires coordination, monitoring feedback and a whole host of others things Western leftists ignore this aspect of Marxism because it doesn't sit well with their petty bourgeois masses, and they don't want to be associated with Stalinism, so replace the end of exchange ('rational planning') with woke bullshit and workerism
Comment from : Steve CU

Yes, there seemed to be “two Karl Marxs” in writing But there has only been one brand of Marxism in reality - the Marxism of Communist Manifesto, chapter 2 brbrMarxists love to talk about the Marxism of Das Kapital It seems to be very benign and analytical The problem is that when Marxists come to power, they go straight for CM chapter 2 Marxism brbrEven Wolff, after doing the usual song and dance about how CM was written early in Marx’s life, and that DK was the more “mature” Marx, came right out and admitted here that “capture of the State” is necessary to neutralize capitalism brbr…which brings us right back to early Marx Communist Manifesto, Chapter 2
Comment from : bluewater454

Recently I have been getting a lot of Tucker Carlson short clips on my YouTube auto play Has YouTube changed its algorithm to gaslight its viewers?
Comment from : James Mcmillan

The withering away of the state is what caused Yugoslavia to collapse
Comment from : Political Economy 101

That's beautiful Anarchy evolves from civilisation
Comment from : Glenn Reid

the withering away of the state idea is a utopian fantasy The state will always be relevant
Comment from : Political Economy 101

Good points, but it is highly ironic that since 1980, the neoliberal capitalists have taken Marx's playbook and made corporatism the defacto replacement for the state by starving it of taxes, whittling away its authority through "federalist" Supreme Court decisions, and making elected representation the bought and paid for slaves of the capital class Fascist capitalism has had much greater success in coopting the state, and indeed becoming almost the global influencer of redistribution and and power that the United Nations attempted to be We are probably 5-7 years away from the dissolution of parts of the US into corporate controlled tribes Bezos and Musk will one day replace Mississippi and Texas as recognizable leadership entities, with the power of feudal lords over the serfs of their realms
Comment from : Massive Cumshot

A real socialist state is of the people, by the people, and for the people The MoP should be owned by the state (people) together Its called the dictatorship of the proletariat
Comment from : Political Economy 101