Watch Before You Buy The NEW Blackmagic 6K Full Frame!

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Title	:	Watch Before You Buy The NEW Blackmagic 6K Full Frame!
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I only have l mount lenses and I’m sick of Panasonic playing games up and down buy this buy that who care about the tech stuff go create something
Comment from : The Ace of Spades TATTOO

I would love to see a true Pocket Cinema again Pair that with a pancake lens…brThe 16mm original pocket cinema was a blast to use despite its shortcomings brI would be fine with a M43 sensor, but expect some sort of optical stabilization and a bit more innovation into autofocusbrA stretch goal would be electronic ND, but could live without that
Comment from : Jay

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Comment from : Тарас Галишко

This is okay for me I shoot for online promotional videos and never use anything north of 1080 I shoot from belly height 95 of the time and would like a FF to make rooms feel larger The only thing was me investing in c-fast cards 😬
Comment from : Manny Drives

I think black magic has done okay over the years but now this camera seems kinda ehh, Why would i pick this over the lumix s5 series?
Comment from : Juan Martinez

Full frame Open Gate 6K with Resolve Software for $2500 You can always go and spend $50K plus for a similar image from a camera from the competition
Comment from : Submariner 1

Megaupload is better on the price!
Comment from : Dean Harrington

26 hundred*
Comment from : riffbaama

go and buy a Sony!
Comment from : HANNA M ISSA

the background music is not so "background"
Comment from : Nathan Abrahams

Yeah, better buy the Panasonic Lumix S5IIX instead
Comment from : Exclusive Studio! ©

keep complaining bro! this is all what you can box man
Comment from : HANNA M ISSA

oh man, BM cameras truly are butt ugly (not the footage, the body)
Comment from : Gavin Owen

13 is not falling behind if they are measurments are correct 13 is the same as red cameras Every camera manufacturer inflates their DR numbers except for arribrThis is a well known practice So no, it is not falling behind
Comment from : David DN

I think u haven’t tried the camera and u r a clown
Comment from : Bonzology3

Whiny beeches can’t see the forest for the trees, the camera and body are fantastic, box cameras are a cliche for all the faux YouTube “film makers”, you are NOT film makers, you are pretentious and mid at best, and that is the entirety of you clowns
Comment from : Bonzology3

Exactly my thoughts And in this price range also the Panasonic S5 ii is placed
Comment from : AyBee

Dude 13 stops is fine and those other cameras don’t shoot useable 15
Comment from : Garydirects

Downgrade to BMCC 25k
Comment from : John F Hebert

All that in mind, would you recommend buying the 6k full frame for a first time camera, or am I better off going with the 6kpro pocket as I had originally planned?
Comment from : Cael Snelson

I’m getting it for the open gate option The 13 stops doesn’t bother me much because I light my scenes
Comment from : Daniel Johnson

no one sane will use the cloud upload, pros are prepared with multiple media storage
Comment from : Krystian Krysti

I definitely getting the new Micro for the studio I do like the Cinema 6k for Anamorphic and CFexpress is a better less $$ card But I'll wait for the full reviews before ordering I'm thinking the URSA 12k is the sweet spot still
Comment from : Steve Holt

Iphone app was easily the most exciting announcement Its now a proper Blackmagic Pocket Cinema camera
Comment from : Ken Doughty

I'm hoping the new format in the 6k body was just a precursor to the same FF in an Ursa upgrade
Comment from : Shauny D

I agree with you it was a big let down just trying to keep up with the rest of the market brThe phone app for the global corporate work might be the winner
Comment from : Shauny D

Thanks
Comment from : Mark Bender

I hope they offer some form of LOG option for that app!
Comment from : Zachary Antle

Give the price, the spec is still pretty amazing If it is E mount, I very likely buy one I would assume some Sony user would buy one either but L mount I have no intention to invest any L mount lens and I have no EF mount either So I can not buy this camera
Comment from : Kai Liu Visual

HAHAHAHA "only" 135 stops of DR C'mon did you look at the footage? It has at least 1 stop better than the BMPCC 6k PRO
Comment from : Daniele Chiari

Lol I’m gonna miss writing it out as “BMPCC” it had a ring to it visually… but now I gotta write it out as “BMCC” 🤦🏾‍♂️🤣🤣
Comment from : JAYFUL FILMZ

I wish the had subtitles too, grant was bit hard to understand 😂
Comment from : Los Spring

Personally it’s a great camera for the price Cinema camera remember
Comment from : JJMcgechan

I agree Michael, that camera body is awful What about the battery? The frame rates too are a little under cooked I know open gate is awesome but a lot of us would prefer 17:9 120 fps
Comment from : Hugh Sweeney

Until Cine-D lab tests this cameras actual dynamic range Ill holdy opinion on that fromt; however, many of the cameras claiming to have more dynamic range at a similar price point actually don't once all aspects of their images are compared on equal ground For example the A7S III Only has 124 stops of dynamic range at a s/n ratio of 5 and that's with it's always on noise reduction Which means if one looks at the pocket 6k pro and sees a dynamic range of 118 stops with a s/n ratio of5 but without any NR, and even simple NR will increase a camera by 1 stop the pocket 6k and 6k pro world achieve at least 128 stops of dynamic range with equivalent NR applied to it In fact Cine-Ds charts show the patch range for the pocket 6k / 6k pro are larger than the A7S III implying it has more recovery potential CVP even achieved about a half a stop more recovery in their comparisons tests My point is claimed dynamic range is not actual dynamic range So until this new cameras sensor is lab tested in an equivalent state we don't know how this camera really preforms
Comment from : Bill Young

this isnt about upgrades or downgrades, its just new and different camera in the lineup, choose the one you like the most lol
Comment from : LKPTLST

This camera is a slap in the face to all those who were expecting a box camera, full frame, internal ND's, higher dynamic range, global shutter, etc It's like the design went backwards And it continues to be this poorly balanced monstrosity Blackmagic totally ignored the wishes of all end users Kinefinity did a better job in implementing a lot of the wishes their loyal followers had
Comment from : The Death Dealer

I will definitely buy the camera The full frame alone is enough unless there is no improvement in low light
Comment from : Amobi Okafor

The DP who shot the promo John Brawley hinted in the forums that there might be a new camera soon (like next year soon) in the box style with the new sensor and lens mount
Comment from : Jack Bynum

to listen to your pissed sound in your voice its really hard to stand
Comment from : HC Schuster

Nah I could get a Panasonic s5mk2x that does 6k raw for less many
Comment from : HarryVlogs

These guys are about 100 meters away from the Vegemite factory I shit you not That's how Aussie they are
Comment from : Robert Double

Well they are recycling old Sony sensors This is the same sensor that is in the latest Panasonic cameras, A7III, nothing new Still it is not a bad camera, L mount is the hot mount at the moment, everybody are joining there There are a lot of lenses cheap and expensive, you can adapt anything on it NDs will be missed but probably the price have to be kept low
Comment from : Simeon Kolev

Going to watch the Sony ZV-E1 compares before I decide
Comment from : Gregg H

If it came with SDI out, TC-In and ND with a more proper body, it would've been a great camerabr6K 3:2 FF (with 04 extra stops over the P6K) , OLPF, L-Mount and CF-Express are great features Hoping for a Pro-Model :)
Comment from : Dennis Schmitz

The thing I’m most disappointed by with this launch is as the new 6K camera has the same body, it’s uses the same batteries Battery life is my biggest gripe with my 6K Pro and I almost exclusively run it using a v-mount apart from when it’s on a gimbal Surely there’s a different battery system they could use?
Comment from : Tom Cressey Lighting Cameraman

Former BMPCC 6K Pro owner here brI absolutely LOVE BM Raw and the studio license that comes with the camera is incredible value, as Resolve is IMHO the best NLE on the marketsorry Premiere, FCP & Avid brBut the form factor of these 'pocket' cameras is UGGGGLLLY! brThat's why I sold my 6K Pro It delivers beautiful images, despite the poor rolling shutter brBut the form factor is so clunky and just plain ugly brThe Ursa Mini(s) on the other hand are gorgeous to look at and even better to work with brSo as cool as this upgrade is, I'll quietly be sitting on the sidelines patiently waiting for an improvement on the design/form factor of the 'pocket' cameras
Comment from : McSnapples

I can't believe Michael just spent more time talking about the app that he did talk about the new FF camera 😂😂 just like on the BM presentation oh well
Comment from : Pablo Morado

Vis à vis the camera it just isn't a good price for the specs anymore, but that app is the bomb!
Comment from : Herfinnur

This is a side grade not an upgrade , now I can imagine their next camera being different shape with full frame plus , SDI and more DR range And more resolution options But I also see them adding more functionality to this camera in the future
Comment from : kashilembo wabu

Michael, there's another camera in the works brTom Petty finished by a "that's it for now" and John Brawley just posted that we might not need to wait another year for a higher end camera (source : blackmagic forum) IBC is all over weekend and blackmagic never waited for an event to launch a camera They are not done yet, but clearly SONY is dominating on sooooo many levels
Comment from : PT_Ex

I think you are being too hard on Blackmagic $2,500 for a camera like this is amazing price and the pictures are wonderful To me the images from their cameras come close to those of my number one camera the Arri Alexa If they changed and added what you wanted and upped the price by a $1,000 you would have moaned at that Just look around and tell me any camera be it Canon (which I use), Sony, Nikon or any other that can produce pictures like the Blackmagic cameras or can come anywhere near the price What I say is well done Blackmagic
Comment from : Dave Knowles - filmmaker

Let’s say it this way: It’s a safe bet for Blackmagic Design with a mount more people and companies switching, to save costs in the development of sensors, lenses, and software With them joining, Leica, Panasonic, DJI, SIGMA, and Blackmagic Design formed a huge alliance that shares technology development behind the L mount which leads to deeper pockets and higher sales for them all
Comment from : Raymond Larum

The first BM camera that I like and probably I’m going to buybrI really don’t care about internal ND and I’m not sure why people make so much noise about that For me “external” ND’s works good enough
Comment from : Ivan Savkov

The dynamic range is actually 135 if you look at the website scales
Comment from : Reimo Tsepkin

From presentation to lack of new hardware, sad to see this happening There’s gotta be something behind the scenes we’re not seeing Are they positioning themselves to service the new iPhone 15 filmmaker community versus creating their own? I’m so sad as a pocket 4k user I feel stuck in 2019 and don’t want to switch but feel like what a company like Sony offers is too hard to say no to
Comment from : German Disla

Seems like the FF6K is a minimal viable product? Hence really the lack of real updates to the hardware brbrIn its form think it’s an ok stop gap product for the fresh film school grad looking to continue working with FF like the high end FF cameras they probably had access to at school brbrDon’t think the self taught set will be drawn to this vs the myriad of mirrorless and FX cameras out therebrbrIronically launching with the phone app, it again reaffirms that one doesn’t need a fancy camera to make films It leaves questions about the FF6K and who really it’s for
Comment from : 108U

I will most likely upgrade to the micros in my studio due to how small the studio is
Comment from : Ranger 7 Studios

I'm more interested in the app for iPhone and how that's going to work with SSD And let's face it The app kind of makes the studio cam obsolete for being the smallest camera you can throw in a suitcase/your pocket
Comment from : Ranger 7 Studios

I agree i was expecting more The specs outside of the FF sensor and OLPF aren’t impressive at all
Comment from : Director E Rose

At this point, I’m straight up philosophically opposed to buying a camera from a company that insists on putting their head in the sand with regards to form factor, no matter how good the rest of the spec sheet isbrbrAlso, this is basically my S1H in a plastic body
Comment from : Caleb Genheimer

The Ursa G3 will have all this camera is missingbrremember this is still their entry level cinema camera
Comment from : Gio Roof Expert

I think the storage also include some high ingress data rates All cloud storage providers have these caps on not only how fast but how much you can ingress per day I expect that BMD will have some off the fastest rates on the market
Comment from : Shawn Lewis

No ND?!!!! That is a huge huge loss
Comment from : LIONEL ZAFAR

bI was underwhelmed with the new pocket 6K full frame Recycled technology Yawn I like the new FREE app for cell phone cameras which overtakes filmic pro I don't care about the rest/b
Comment from : Mark Job

They’re clearly saving their box camera for the next ‘URSA’ … they know everyone wants box styling do they will make it their next flagship camera
Comment from : iamkubrick

I was disappointed in today’s full frame camera In fact I did not know whether to laugh or cry
Comment from : Navarre Newspaper

L-mount?! Are you kidding me? The least used mount out there WTF were they thinking? This should have been an E mount or RF mount
Comment from : BLC

I think if this is imx 410 like we all suspect, typically that sensor tests higher than 13 stops…I think for whatever reason, they are being conservative there I’d be willing to bet it’s better than that
Comment from : Josh Kidd Films

Love Grant's no BS approach, makes most of the other presentations seem quite pretentious BMD is great brbrFF is cool but most of the BMD fans are already whinging a lot about the lack of NDs, same body, no SDI out, somewhat restricted frame rates, no UHD 4K setting, etc BMD holds down prices by recycling parts Love it or hate it, that's BMD I think they are keeping their fans and users but I don't see this new camera driving a ton of other brand users toward BMD for this camera People want usable AF, internal NDs, full sized XLRs and a boring shoebox form factor You can debate that all you want but that's what buyers say they want I still bet that the new camera is cheap enough where a lot of higher end users will just pick one up as a B camera or a fun camera, I would if I had a spare $2,600 laying around brbrAll of the cloud stuff Meh I could see it being pretty cool if you are doing shared international production? I don't care about cloud production at all but some people must be all about it
Comment from : Dan Brockett - Director of Photography

This feels like they’re really prepping for an 8k-12k FF URSA Mini Pro in the next year or two…feels too much like a bridge camera
Comment from : Cameron Gallagher

Only in Open gate at (6k) & anamorphic 6:5 (in 4k), is the fps maxed out at 36fps In regular 6k you can go up to 48-60fps in certain ratiosetcbrbrBut BMD needed to do better
Comment from : SaintProductions1

Blackmagic thinks the customer is stupid, still no AF for Video, and did you notice the full Frame sensor with no Build in ND, this is a glorified 6K G
Comment from : Klausjpontheroadagain media

It's very interesting that they switch from ProRes to h264 when their previous cameras had progress This is very much a downgrade in that sense H264 is getting outdated with new codecs and the fact that they didn't keep the very industry standard ProRes is very concerning
Comment from : Jerome Lightbody

Yeah today was disappointing I do hope they quickly update the rest of their line with the l mount Im ready to upgrade lenses but dont want to stick with ef Mirrorless mounts are objectively better for lens qualitybrbrI also wish the ursa 12k got the same C2C features as the broadcast g2 The 12k is an underated beast but just lacks the versatility of the rest of lineup
Comment from : Nick Clemens

FML I was just about to sell my 6k and 6k Pro and pair this new Cinema Camera with my new S5iiX, but those framerate downgrades are likely a deal breaker
Comment from : Zack Robertson

I was waiting on BM announcement before I trade in my Pocket 6k Pro for Red Komodo X BM stop giving us these annoying shapes🤣
Comment from : Epic Visuals

6K has HD120????? Is it because the full frame is so much more data? I was expecting 4K120 HD240 but I get it I’m crazy
Comment from : Bread

I am genuinely super happy for the first full frame sensor, L mount, CFExpress But he said cinema camera for really high end productions, and took out another pocket camerabrI have all the pockets, 4K, 6K, 6K Pro: the fact is, as soon I start to rig it for something a bit more complicated than wandering around the street randomly testing the camera, if I want a v-mount battery, a power distribution plate, a SDI port, I need to attach a train of stuff far enough from the monitor, that this pocket camera becomes longer and heavier than the Ursa Mini! brWith a box form factor it would be different, look at Kinefity, Red, even ZCam brThis fact of targeting dslr style users, and letting the rest reluctantly accept the many downsides of the form factor, just because there aren't any comparable alternative around for colours and look, is a very risky game for BM
Comment from : Nicola Paoli

This camera is DOA
Comment from : Diminish12

I think the Ronin 4D 6K is a better value than this camera
Comment from : raredreamfootage

Hi if you are like me invested in Panasonic FF line,like me it is a very good day, and I am personally very happy that they move to L mountbrBut for other people I understand the frustrationbrBut for me Cinema Camera 6 K FF is a great product which I will buyAnd I am very curious how will look my Meike 50mm f12 on it (except crazy hard to nail focus because it is a manual lens but declicked)brSo at least for me a good day
Comment from : Filip Michal Saffray

Same sensor as the Panasonic S5 II ? I had the 6k pro and I sold it for the Panasonic S5 II
Comment from : Nick Bibbo

Hey dude, just wanna say how much I appreciate your videos and your attitude toward all of this Its makes me laugh and its nice to hear it said, the way it feels
Comment from : Movie Retreat

As much as I would like to be disappointed, after watching the Of Two Lands video on the camera I'm intriguedbrbrIt's definitely more in the line of a different tool rather than something worse or better brbrLooks like in his experience, it has the best quality image for Blackmagic yet
Comment from : Andy Kunkel

Thought about the exact same thing with their intros fam😅
Comment from : MJae

Wha whaaaaa … air ball
Comment from : gen x tech guy

Was disappointed af too Was hoping for full frame + ibis + AF + smaller body Would have sold the a7s3 I bought recently Super anti climactic lol
Comment from : KoishikAhmmad